General Premier League Thread 2023-24 Mod Note in op 27/6/23 And 21/05/24

I think having a great start last season and being top really focused the minds for Arsenal and the momentum kept them going beyond their ability. It would be interesting to see if they have a bad or average start next season would they then go through the motions or still have the mentality to make the top two or three.

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I've seen nothing to suggest he's anything like Firmino..... Certainly not in the way Firmino plays the game.

Top 5 will qualify for CL in 2024/2025 if English clubs do well in Europe next season as far as I know.

And considering Arsenal & Newcastle are (somewhat) Champions League newbies (neither have been in the group stage the last 6 seasons, longer for Newcastle) and Man Utd don't have a great Champions League record over the last decade, it's not a given that the English teams will do well.

I'm not sure if EL / ECL contribute towards the overall ranking.

It’s already happening, Neves? And I can see more. They are gazumping other leagues the way the PL used to. Players have shown time and time again that they will take the money.

In fact, I’d be stunned if they weren’t trying to sign someone like Salah.

I think the CL group stages are a lot easier than people think these days.

Yeah, PL clubs really struggling to get out of the group is a rare thing these days.

The Premier League teams are really really good in recent history.

if the new CL format had been coming in next season, England and Netherlands would have got an extra place each. For 2024/25 it will depend on what happens in the European competitions next season.

You'd imagine the strength in depth of the PL will mean an extra place most seasons but it would be fairly gutting if you squeezed into 5th place only for someone else to lose a European tie that resulted in you not getting into the CL.

That was a one off game behind closed doors 4 seasons ago. Since then they have lost 6 league games and 2 cup ties against Man City.

Brentford, Brighton, Crystal Palace, Everton, Leeds Utd, Newcastle, Nottingham Forest, Southampton, West Brom, West Ham and Wolves have each taken points off of Man City in the same time period.

I’d expect Arsenal to make top 4 next year, mainly because the other teams all have their issues to solve as well and Arsenal have added to their team and, unlike other years when they had good seasons, none of their best players are looking to leave.

And Newcastle will have a problem with getting players that are better than their current crew even though I think they massively overachieved.

I think Aston Villa could could give it a real run this year, I wouldn’t be surprised if they aren’t too far off Newcastle.

Newcastle need to win a trophy. That was their target for last season and but for Nick Pope's rush of blood to the head against Liverpool they may have pulled it off.

Without some silverware they are dependent on the charm of Eddie Howe to get players in that aren't just motivated by money. It's a hard sell for a club that doesn't have a history of success to prove that they're not just in the Champions League because of the poor seasons of Liverpool and Chelsea.

Newcastle area in general is a hard sell I'd say. The wives want London and Cheshire.

I think Brentford may struggle without Toney

What are the chances that Newcastle just happened to have a camera person at the ready at the random encounter of their new player playing football with the local kids. All while he was out house hunting. So lucky, and obviously never staged or planned to generate the nice clean image of the club being such a family friendly one.

I don't get the comparison to the piano. That wasn't a fake attempt to make the player or club look like nice guys. The Newcastle one even has 'wholesome' in the description (face palm). It's so lacking in sincerity and subtlety that only a despot could think it is good PR.

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Well maybe if they meant **** mundane analysis by tedious ex players then it's just telling the truth