"Green" policies are destroying this country

A lot of the coverage has gone over my head. If carbon is still being pumped into the atmosphere even if the 1.5 goal of the Paris treaty is met, what difference does it make to climate change? What's done is done.

The Paris agreement is an agreement to disagree, China, India, the EU, USA and others do not agree to the same thing except to submit INDCs. In this case of Ireland you can see what FG and other TDs at the time voted to ratify intended nationally determined contribution (INDC). We are now being governed under EU directive (central planning) specifically article 191 & article 192.

No country in the EU will meet these targets in the time-frames intended without substantial economic damage and domestic political backlash. When combined with other major issues (inflation, immigration, energy, aging population, war), the outcome is EU destabilisation. This agreement can only be abandoned or we end end up like the corrupt Soviet Union central planning failure whereby the regions submitted their false "record breaking" grain harvest reports to the central committee, while the public queued outside stores due to shortages and resorted to growing a substantial portion of their own food.

The INDCs ignore the fact that much industrial production has moved from EU & US countries to China, India & South East Asia, those countries governments did not sign up to what most of our elected representatives did. The warning signs are there, the yellow vests in France, the rise of farmer-citizen party (BoerBurgerBeweging) in the Netherlands and the abandonment (for now) of the EU nature restoration law and the energy crisis in Germany that is now costing more people their livelihoods. There is more to play out before sanity returns.

A great example of renewables going anywhere there's a public tit to suck on ... including the US Plains states well known to be prone to giant hail storms. That'll be 14,000 4-year-old solar panels going to landfill.

It is all about the grift - all irish solar projects should be shipped to the south of Italy or Spain where the utilisation would be significantly higher and the subsidies significantly lower #makingadifference

On a related subject, the Atlantic coast experiences storms during the Winter and every now and again there are the big 100 years storms like 1703 and 1839 which will practically wipe out or significantly damage wind turbines. I have not seen any data on the costs maintenance costs associated with the regular storms that are expected in the Atlantic. The Danish company, Ørsted has to fund early repairs on their turbines. It will only take one bad 100 year storm to wipe out the investment in ocean based turbines.

"It seems"

Nobody who advocates action on climate change is advocating causing food shortages

In fact, even where people advocate reducing meat consumption, it is on the basis that meat production takes up more resources so if we prioritise food production over meat production, we should have plenty of available food to feed the world

It's all about priorities. The anti environmentalists want to prioritise the desires of the most wasteful consumers on the planet, above the needs of the vast majority of people on this planet.

There are plenty of people on here who would never be allowed to get within an asses roar of a private jet, who would campaign to the death to prevent any regulations that might limit billionaires from having as many private jets as they desire.

Yes, it is a form of food. I'm a meat eater. But those who say environmentalists want to depopulate the earth through food shortages are talking pure nonsense. If there is a global food shortage, (and there isn't, there's a distribution problem) then prioritising the most food should mean reducing the proportion of resources given to growing luxury products like beef.

Of course, the 'anti environmentalists' tend to be on the side of the millionaires and billionaires and would likely support their 'right' to have 2 cows a week for themselves, while thousands of poor people suffer from malnutrition

Hey look man I’m just pointing out where you are spreading misinformation, you said

“so if we prioritise food production over meat production”

I’m just pointing out meat is food.

There seems to be a recent bout of misinformation being spread by greenies on this thread wether it be tram lines and station being built in 2022 or meat not being food.

Very peculiar.

You do realize that being an island those taxes on air travel will hit us hard. The rest of mainland Europe can get around by train.