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Electricity cable to garden office

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  • Registered Users Posts: 37 dezo19


    @kirk. i imagine that is exactly it. Taking advantage of people. I trusted them to be doing what’s right considering I’m paying them to provide me with a service and I say most people are like that. It wasn’t until I was alerted to the potential problem that I started to look into it or else I would’ve been none the wiser.



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 dezo19


    @Lenar3556 thanks for that. I think this would be a good approach and hopefully the company will be reasonable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    RCBO on the swa is a terrible system, it's forcing you back to the cabinet to reset

    The cabinet is not designed for that and the swa doesn't need it



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 dezo19


    to add to this, my rcd keeps tripping now. The utility room I cannot use at the moment. Finally isolated that as the sockets that were tripping it. I assume this is linked to the new wiring in the meter box as I’ve never had this problem before.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,871 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    Given the rain which we just had, that could be coincidental. What sockets did you isolate to prevent the trip?



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 dezo19


    @10-10-20 the utility room is the one that kept tripping it as I kept flipping the switches.

    I gave it about half an hour and flipped the utility switch on and it worked so they’re all working at the moment. The rain did ease off as well at the same time. Maybe it was coincidence as I woke up to it being tripped this morning as well and nobody was using anything at the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    It shouldn't be related to the cabin and wiring

    Coincidence



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,802 ✭✭✭meercat


    It’s unlikely that this setup is causing your rcd to trip. I’d say it’s a separate issue. It may not be your utility as all the neutral connections for your socket circuits are on the one busbar in your distribution board. Any load on your circuits may cause it to trip.


    id always advise checking the immersion is turned off first.



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 dezo19


    Maybe paranoia kicking in then! ☺️



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,802 ✭✭✭meercat


    Any update op



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 dezo19


    @meercat still trying to get a date off them for when they’ll be back out



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 dezo19


    Hi all, so I reported the issue to Safe Electric today. I have been trying to get them to come out and sort the issue. They came out to install the path and said they would be out the following week to fix the electrics but they didn’t. I emailed them at the start of the week to let them know I was contacting Safe Electric if they did not come out this week. They didn’t so I submitted an illegal electric works form.


    Does anyone know how this goes now? The Safe Electric website reads a little confusingly in places.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,802 ✭✭✭meercat


    they are usually very efficient. Follow up with a phone call on Tuesday though. Safe electric are in transition atm and just be sure your complaint is processed. It would also be worthwhile emailing the cru as safe electric can only deal with registered electrical contractors



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 dezo19


    Thanks. Is the Commission for Regulation of Utilities just for suppliers rather than electricians?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,802 ✭✭✭meercat




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  • Registered Users Posts: 37 dezo19


    Rang CRU today and was told it takes time and will be processed. Person at the other end couldn’t wait to get off the phone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,802 ✭✭✭meercat


    Thanks for the update. Keep us informed. Cheers



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 dezo19


    Got an email today to say an inspector will be out tomorrow (14th) to look at the electrical works.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭JL spark


    That’s great , keep us posted



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 dezo19


    The inspector summed it up as a mess and is glad that I brought it to their attention. They are going to contact the firm and build a case then.

    he said I can look for a change of contractor now to do the electrics properly. He doesn’t think it will be a big job but will be costly and may be difficult to get an electrician to do it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,802 ✭✭✭meercat


    Was it someone from safe electric or the cru that called


    I agree that it will be hard to find someone willing to sort this out for you. There’s a lot to sort out and certify.


    the installation will have to be rechecked by safe electric when you change contractor too


    thanks for the update and keep us informed of progress



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 dezo19


    It was an inspector from CRU. They deal with illegal works rather than safe electric.

    he was saying about the inspector coming out as well as part of the change of contractor process.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,802 ✭✭✭meercat


    It’s unfortunate you have to go through all this hassle.

    it’ll be interesting to see what (if anything) can be done to a company from the north and if the cru can pursue them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 dezo19


    The inspector was keen on going after them and wanting something to be done.



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 dezo19


    My wife suggested we should get a solicitor involved too. Look to claim the electric expenses and also for providing a timber base instead of concrete but still charging the same price.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,802 ✭✭✭meercat


    the remedial work may be costly and you will have to recoup it so I’d say that’s fair enough

    the cru report will certainly help your case


    id say the garden office company has tried to get a someone to rectify this for you but no one will touch it with a barge pole.



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 dezo19


    The Last time I was talking to the garden company they said the electrician who did the work would ring me the following morning. He didn’t so I warned them I was going to escalate it unless they got back to me but they didn’t. The electrician is part of the company.

    the inspector was saying that in the uk builders can do the electrical work if it’s a domestic premises. Doesn’t need to be a certified electrician so he thinks this might be the case here because of how bad the work is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 826 ✭✭✭gandalfio


    So what are the regulations on this? Is ok to to run the cable along a wall or must it go underground? Where should the power be connected to in the house if using the meter is a no no?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Connect to board in house

    Swa can run along a wall



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 dezo19


    I talked to my solicitor about reclaiming fees from them but he said it would be throwing good money after bad. Even if I won a case against them then I’d have to hire solicitors up the north to claim it so I’d be losing out with all the fees to pay.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 37 dezo19


    My electrician has worked through the fixes and the safe electric inspector is due out on Friday to sign off on it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 dezo19


    Oddly enough, a friend of mine has just gotten a garden room done out the back by a registered electrician and he ran the cable to the outside box as well. I told my friend to make sure she got a cert for that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Don't think thats allowed

    Main protective device in the cabinet

    7 way main board outside cabinet if car charging from cabinet

    Afaik anyway



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 dezo19


    I don’t think it’s allowed either but the electrician is registered so I told her to get a very for it. It’s on him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    I'm fairly certain it isn't

    It's just handy

    I'd question the worth of any cert for non compliant work also



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,802 ✭✭✭meercat


    Thanks for the update. I was wondering how this was going for you.

    wha certificate has your electrician provided and did he have to test your whole installation to reinstate your main cables



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,802 ✭✭✭meercat


    its definitely not permitted


    just to note for anyone following this thread


    a certificate should always be provided for work in a domestic installation


    if it’s minor work then a certificate should be provided on request also



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 dezo19


    I haven’t got any certificate yet. The inspection is happening today so hopefully it’s cleared and then it is all certified.



  • Registered Users Posts: 37 dezo19


    Inspection went well. Just a labelling of switches in the shed fuseboard and a 3rd switch to be added to it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Board not labelled like that's not a great sign

    What rec doesn't label a board anyway it passed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Put up a picture of the cabinet now and shed board

    Post edited by kirk. on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,802 ✭✭✭meercat


    Hi o.p

    a recent thread similar to this reminded me about this one


    just wondering if the cru followed up and if there’s any update. Cheers



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