Dublin urgently needs to enforce a green belt

That's what happens when everyone wants to live beside the city.

There are actually loads of parks and been areas in Dublin

People want homes, not parks,, People with homes, want parks.

Something has to give..

What they are doing out Kinsealy, Balgriffin, Malahide way is brutal…. Not a cats chance in hell the majority of that planning gets the go ahead ten years ago…. Especially the stuff popping up around Balgriffin and Malahide.

the planning laws never changed.

nowhere near adequate road infrastructure.

We need to stop the NIMBYs having so much power. The needs of the many have to outweigh the needs of the few. NIMBYs have stopped us getting a Metro on the Southern end of the Green line as they have to drive a bit further to get into their homes that are walking distance from the city centre!!

We need to start razing the low density areas in the centre of Dublin and put in proper modern high density developments. Stop putting high density developments at the end of Luas/Train/Bus routes. Both Luas lines are already at capacity yet we are building massive amounts of houses and apartments in Citywest and Cherrywood. What are the people who don't live in Citywest or Cherrywood supposed to do for PT when it's all full from the terminus.

We need 15 minute cities in the centre of our cities not out in the suburbs.

The 1st thing i would propose is to limit their ability to delay housing projects, to pull up the ladder after them.

If a housing development (or compulsory purchase order for public works) gets the greenlight then there should be one appeal and one only. No high court. no supreme court (the supreme count could refuse to hear these cases).

that way developers would have a timeline of when these works can begin and the delaying tactics would be stopped at source.

CPO

Always wondered why they don't do more of theses where it makes sense.

I suppose it can be abused.

Parts of Fingal currently does have a stretch of land zoned as a green belt between it and Meath, it's along where Fingal joins with Meath around the Kilbride area.

However housing is currently being built right up to the line and what is agricultural land has been sold in the general area, no doubt in anticipation of rezoning. It'll be interesting what happens with it under the next LDAP.

I find it unsettling that no one cares that we are destroying our countryside. Farmers are being forced to rewild and we could loose large amounts of farmland to rewetting laws. Yet we continue to build further out into the countryside or up the Dublin mountains. There would be less need for public transport if people lived in our cities. Instead of building multi million Euro train lines all over the country for new homes, spend the millions on razing low density areas in the cities and the build new homes there. People talk of moving Dublin port for more land to build housing, to where as the NIMBYs will block it?, yet ignore the fact that large parts of our city center's are low density or have no residents. Demolishing and decontaminating a port is a huge operation, demolishing low density areas isn't.

They will be compensated for their properties. We've CPO'd homes for motorways and roads. Why can't we CPO properties so we don't have to build more roads or train lines?

Look at cherrywood new development. 5 floor buildings beside the Luas, near no existing residential. But its ok, they can just swallow up the next field, put 5 floor residential there too and everyone can drive everywhere... totally ridiculous....

Do you understand what the implications of putting a CPO on a person's house could be? It will mean that private property, instead of being rightfully sacrosanct in law, will be merely conditional on the state's not wanting the said property. There is no good way to use such a power.

I don't doubt for a second that many in power here are salivating at the prospect of being able to do this, and if the last few years have taught me anything, it's that a sizable proportion of the population have no respect for the freedom and rights of others. I am not going to debate this further, as I quite simply am disgusted at the very idea.

Absolutely not! Greenbelts are pushed by corporate interests that want to further limit supply and squeeze every penny out of us for tiny living cages.

Dublin is growing, because that's where you have to go to get a job and salvage a living. Invest in the rest of Ireland!

So say you own a house. how do you reap this benefit?

Green belts are not the cause of that. It's successive govt economic policies and housing policy's.

Can only agree. It's just urban sprawl going further away from decent transport links.

There are 1 storey cottages within 1km of OCS.

So a priority should be to demolish any building within the canals that is 1 or 2-stroey, and replace with 4-6 storey buildings.

Southern end of the green line being minutes from the City Centre? You mean northern/CC end? Otherwise I 100% agree with you.

NIMBY's are certainly an issue, but in may cases they're absolutely right. Sometimes for the wrong reasons, yes, but their genuine objections are very often misrepresented by those jealous of their situation.

My family home was built in 1993 over 10km from Dublin city centre, and at the time there were green fields over the back wall of the house. Since then apartment blocks have gone up locally, and while the 24hr bus service is one of the best in the country, it's still just a bus, and easily takes 1hr to get to the city centre. It's plainly too far out for anything but a metro to support - bus connects is piecemeal nonsense.

The road network has not been upgraded to suit, with the excuse being that people should walk or cycle, but there is little to no land zoned for office/commercial use locally (as a 15min town should have), so people end up commuting into town via an inadequate bus, or to citywest on the M50 anyway, after taking 10+ minutes just to exit their apartment development. It's just terribly planned, and you're immediately labelled a NIMBY if you point that out.

I now live just over 1km from St. Stephens Green in a 1 bed apartment - exactly where we need high-rise, high-density development - not 10+ km out. Building large apartment blocks on any green space you can find, and stating "all housing is good housing", etc destroys the future of those who end up buying those apartments.

How do you want all these people in Fingal to travel to the city?

Maybe rather than creating yet more sprawl and road traffic, housing should be concentrated along the rail lines.