Waterford GAA Thread - Mod note post #1

Overcooked I think is a better description. I think he has trained Tipp this year and Waterford last year into the ground.

Both teams looked brilliant earlier in the year and then ran out of puff. He hasn't got it right with this championship format and was a puck of a ball from going out in the group in Munster. Both years he went well with Waterford in Covid was an old structure.

I also think his in game management is poor. Some decisions he made last year for us like putting Tom Barron full back on Aaron Gillane or Pauric Mahony midfield against Clare were mad. You might as well lock him into the boot of the car the day of a game

Waterford Galway into camoige semi finals. QFs KK v cork, tipp v Antrim

It's no coincidence that Waterford camogie has stepped up a notch, with Sean Power in charge.

I still don't know if he was ever considered for the mens senior hurling manager, given his unprecedented under age success. Was he just 'not in' with the right crowd.

We'll never know if he is not given an opportunity!

Waterford must be the only county where a manager wins 2 of the counties 7 All Ireland titles. (Minor, u21 and senior)

He applied for the position the year Pauric Fanning was appointed, would be have been any worse?

Would he have been any worse this year?

Liam Cahills credibility was based on his u20 success but yet Power may be deemed not good enough.

I'd love to hear the rational behind that?

This talk of no senior experience is a load of bull too.

Power should have been given an opportunity with that panel due to the success at minor and u201, the ship might have sailed now but I honestly don't see what we had to lose in giving him a shot.

Since the u21 win in 2016, we have won one league title at senior level?

How worse could power have been?

Hard to listen to Davy on radio criticising Galway for not having more than 2 men forward and playing 13 in their own half

Let's hope we give it a good rattle

Sean Power showing how good a manager he is once again

Hard to listen to Marty too, with his well worn cliches. Also, like most commentators, we don't need to know a player's scoring stats every time a score happens.

Is Duignan on a bonus for using the word 'unbelievable'.

Was in Croke Park today. Even though Limerick are raging favourites for the final, Kilkenny will give them a right rattle ; remember, they only lost by 2 points last year. As mentioned above, contrast Derek Lyng's impact against Davy.

Think will watch the cricket no interest of any of those teams winning like last year . It just sums up the whole season depressing having same line up .

I think you’re forgetting Waterford were also in the AI semi final last year & could well have made the AI final. I don’t see too many wondering why Derek Lyons didn’t get a look in with our senior hurlers on the back of it. This year we’ve gotten a bye into the semi, last year we had to win a 1/4 to get there.

I’m not saying Sean isn’t a good manager, but he hasn’t transformed this team from no hopers to challengers either.

John Kiely and Liam Sheedy came from underage management and look at the huge success they've had

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I'd love to be in a job where I can make a total balls of it and not get the sack. At least I'll save a few quid by not travelling to county games next year.

I think we need a good league performance, you could tell from this year's league we weren't up to it, the argument can be made it's only the league, but no plan or style of play seemed to be forming bar running into players with the ball.

We will be back in Walsh Park so it's vital we have really good strong home league games and try to carry that form into the Munster championship.

Unfortunately we are not a successfully county so I don't think we can have the attitude "it's only the league" and then just turn it on for the championship.

Yeah that's the depressing thing about being a Waterford fan lately, it's not just the awful year we've had (again), it's the fact that looking around it's hard to see what's going to really change or improve our situation in the next few years.

It's pretty much guaranteed that golden generation from 2013-16 unfortunately isn't going to win us an AI and apart from a few good prospects coming through (i.e. the 3 Fitzgerald's) it's hard to see us even getting out of Munster, let alone going all the way.

Having home advantage next year may help and you'd hope Davy might have learned something from a years experience with the team but I mentioned here a while back that next years championship is going to be rotten having Limerick and Clare away. Hard to see anything other than two losses there. Would expect Cork and Tipp to improve from good showings this year so it feels like we're already really up against it.

Hate to be so negative about it but it's a bleak time and feels like we're going nowhere. It's also hard seeing nearly every other team having their name up in lights at different stages over the championship, they nearly all have had at least one or two big days where they put in great performances and got big results.

Not at all surprised at Davys' re-appointment - our County Board were never ever going to admit to having made a massive blunder by bringing him back in the first place - they have never been particularly brave in their decision making - Liam Cahill's appointment given his success with Tipp underage and that he was already in line to replace Sheedy made him a safe bet - and Davy's reputation for "getting a kick out" of players in the early years was another "safe bet" in their eyes. This obsession with winning a Senior All- Ireland from those Minor and Under 21 Winning teams has surely got to be put to bed at this stage and we need to start looking and planning for the long-term future of hurling in Waterford, which I believe with the panel we have, includes being in a position to challenge for the All Ireland over the coming years.

Kilkenny have shown that by proper application and structure, you can be competitive - I still believe Limerick are favorites to win it this year, but i think when the Final Whistle blows KK will still be in the game banging on the door. You haven't heard Derek Lyng talking about 3 year plans or making massive changes to players or style - he has just gone about his job in a quite efficient manner and fair play to him and it is not as if he has had bundles of unerage All Ireland wining teams over the last 10 years to pick from.

We need a manager who will to some degree unite the majority of players and supporters across the county - not divisive characters such as Davy who's primary aim is to promote their own profile and move along - do people honestly believe Davy is worried about where Waterford will be in three or four years time - not unless it promote him personally.

The result against Tipp seems to have saved his bacon - when for me it should have been the nail in his coffin - the team showed that day when they were set up properly and allowed to play they could compete with the best and that performance only served to highlight what a complete mess he had made of the games against Cork and Clare - but this is where we are unfortunately - has Davy learned from last year - doubt it very much as he has not really changed or learned over the last 15 years so why should he now !