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Heavyweight Boxing

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    #11162
    ebbsy
    Registered Users Posts: 6,872 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    You lot are absolutely mad.

    Ngannou will be paid off, and Fury will carry him so nobody complains about a quick stoppage.

    Usyk is the best heavyweight at the moment.



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    #11163
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,649 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120850307#Comment_120850307

    Yes. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was staged. But that’s a different discussion.

    if it’s 100 percent both trying to win, then my points stand.



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    #11164
    tobesure
    Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭tobesure


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120850383#Comment_120850383

    Ngannou can win, in the same way Aldershot Town can win if they play Man City in the FA Cup.



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    #11165
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,649 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120850442#Comment_120850442

    Well I’d gamble way more on Francis to win compared to Aldershot



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    #11166
    reclose
    Registered Users Posts: 410 ✭✭reclose


    If Wilder and Klitschko couldn’t KO Fury then I don’t think this lad can.



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    #11167
    bmc58
    Registered Users Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭bmc58


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120646429#Comment_120646429

    Fury is gone like McGregor.All talk and nothing at the end.



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    #11168
    iebamm2580
    Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    yeah fury has gone down in my estimation too, wasting his best years as a boxer, will regret it someday.



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    #11169
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 38,393 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120850177#Comment_120850177

    Ever hear of Gail Devers? 😁

    Ngannou has a punchers chance and no more than that. He has power but he'd be very lucky and highly unlikely to get close enough to use it.



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    #11170
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 38,393 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120853040#Comment_120853040

    Fury is smart, protecting his unbeaten record by fighting a lot of bums. Outside of Wilder he hasn't fought a serious contender since he fought 39 year old Wladimir Klitschco.

    He's earned somewhere in the region of £200 million. Why would he fight a serious opponent and risk losing his easy paydays?



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    #11171
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users Posts: 9,334 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    i remember eddie wanted AJ to fight Ngannou a while ago

    johnny fisher was announced for the aj undercard and i think he's talking about Carty going on it too

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    #11172
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,649 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    How sad boxing at HW is: I’d make Francis a bigger risk to Fury than Whyte to AJ



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    #11173
    ebbsy
    Registered Users Posts: 6,872 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120854930#Comment_120854930

    Julias Francis ??



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    #11174
    nacho libre
    Registered Users Posts: 16,754 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    What an inversion, a well ranked heavyweight is less of a risk to a fellow heavyweight than a man who has never had a boxing bout before against one of the very best heavyweights in the world. I know walshb you like to take contrarian positions for the sake of it, but this takes the biscuit!

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    #11175
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,649 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120862017#Comment_120862017

    No it does not take any biscuit. Dillian Whyte is shot to bits and was never that good anyway. I reckon AJ beats him easily.. very easily. Who gives an absolute fiddlers where Whyte is “ranked.”

    I reckon Fury beats Francis easily as well.

    The only manner of victory I see for Whyte is KO. The only manner of victory for Francis is KO.

    at this stage (due to Whyte being so shot to bits) I reckon Francis has better chance to get the upset.

    Bookies aren’t too far off me either. AJ and Fury are 7-1 and 10-1 ON; Whyte and Francis are 4-1 and 6-1

    l’ll ask you a question: Whyte and Chisora..are they riskier to Fury than Francis?

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    #11176
    nacho libre
    Registered Users Posts: 16,754 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120862485#Comment_120862485

    This exhibition bout most certainly does take the biscuit ,walshb.

    Whyte is not top tier, but he is a more credible opponent than Nagannou. Anyone ranked in the top 10 is. Whyte has more of a chance of beating Joshua than Ngannou does of beating Fury

    If Nagannou had even a brief career as a pro boxer with one or two good names on his resume your argument might have some merit. Ngannou has as much chance of beating Fury as the Irish Soccer team have of qualifying the euros! Frank Sanchez or Hergovic(?) Would have provided a good test for Fury. Frank Warren thinks there is only three boxers in the Heavyweight decision. He obviously has never heard of the ranking system either.



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    #11177
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120863347#Comment_120863347

    This is a great way to put the whole thing into context. I’d add Ortiz and Ruiz into that mix. Fury had 5 or 6 much more credible options than this nonsense. If Nganno had any real ambition in boxing then he’d have a couple of pro tune up fights and be confident of winning them. His only hope here is to come out swinging and if he does then Fury will nail him. He will likely instead come out tentative and be picked apart gradually. I expect his fitness to be nowhere near good enough either. I can’t believe we’re talking about it. He may look no worse than Whyte did on the night but he is much worse an option. It’s a mockery.



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    #11178
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,649 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Francis’ ambition is about 8 million dollars. About 10 times more than his highest ever payday.

    Fury is just content to take as little risk to his 0 as possible.



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    #11179
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users Posts: 9,334 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    btw this nonsense has a rematch clause for fury

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    #11180
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users Posts: 9,334 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    If the Saudi guys didn’t come in with big bags of cash I think Usyk would have taken the Wembley deal

    I am still not convinced the wilder v Aj fight will happen

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    #11181
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,786 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120865760#Comment_120865760

    In case he gets caught with a hail mary haymaker.



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    #11182
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,649 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120865760#Comment_120865760

    Ah here!!!



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    #11183
    flanna01
    Registered Users Posts: 931 ✭✭✭flanna01



    Alas, the days of Frazier, Norton, Foreman and Shavers are all but a distant memory..

    The above were gladiators of the profession, the unbeaten zero was a stain on their character, they ducked nobody.

    Take Ruiz v Joshua 2, Fury v Chisora or Whyte, Usyk v Joshua for that matter...... All crap!

    Joshua stayed so far out of range, you could have fitted an entire kitchen between them, never mind the kitchen sink (both fights)

    The deluded Fury took 'rope a dope' to an entirely new level....

    Heavyweight boxing needs re-setting.. I suggest the dollar chasing eejits at the top, spare three minutes to watch the fifteenth and final round between Larry Holmes and Ken Norton.. True warriors laying it all on the line, Norton gained as much respect for losing as Holmes did for winning.



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    #11184
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 38,393 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I think Whyte has a very realistic chance of beating Joshua.



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    #11185
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users Posts: 20,756 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120869287#Comment_120869287

    No chance Whyte checked out a few years ago,

    The division is a mess, there all blaming Fury but i think there all to blame ,

    Fury could have backed down on pay & got Usyk , Usyk could have backed down on pay & got Fury , AJ simply doesn't want Fury not right now he'd have ended his career, Ruiz asked for stupid money to fight Fury , Wilder the only one who can't be blamed here

    I do think by next summer it'll all be sorted,

    Can you just imagine, Ruiz, Whyte, Francis & Dubois all win it would be magic,



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    #11186
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120899896#Comment_120899896

    Was getting a lot out of that post nodding away… until the last line.

    But for the craic which of the aforementioned has the best chance of the upset for you? For me I’d say Dubois, there are obvious advantages there.



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    #11187
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users Posts: 9,334 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    intersting take on the division

    https://youtu.be/tWWY_7_Jkxw


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    #11188
    Bobby Baccala
    Registered Users Posts: 7,341 ✭✭✭Bobby Baccala


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120899896#Comment_120899896

    Just on the last bit there, you do know Ngannou isn’t fighting for a title?



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    #11189
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users Posts: 9,334 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120900554#Comment_120900554

    lineal title is on the line lol

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    #11190
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,649 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    In order of upset chances: Ruiz, Dubois, Francis and last is Whyte.



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    #11191
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120901127#Comment_120901127

    I’d definitely swap Whyte and Francis and also would consider Dubois ahead of Ruiz. Has the Ruiz Wilder fight been made or an inch closer? At least the other ones are happening.



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