Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

The man was asking about working full-time or could you stay at home on sixty cows.

I didn't know he lost all leave of his faculties when quota's went and is overstocked and overpaying for rented land. (He may own what he has and is running a proper farm).

How would any normal household live on a wage say a council worker on 45000. When some People here can't rear a family on 90000. People have to watch there out goings that's all I was saying

Already am, between cosecure, blocks, dry cow minerals, extra protected minerals in the meal, the above works okay once molybdenum levels are under 3 mg/kg, and iron levels are low but when your dealing with this stuff it's just damage limitation only I have maize to dilute the 1st cut with for the winter I'd be screwed

On the above sample copper to molybdenum ratio is around 1.5 like i said its poison

As I've said previously, the whole industry is built on slave labour. There is no easy way. Father and son only last so long unfortunately.

I was in a partnership with my parents for a while but my parents were only half committed to be honest. The tax consultants and solicitors were the only people that benefitted from it.

There is 80 to 100 hours a week work on most farms. That's 2 labour units and if that can't be paid then it is unviable without a bit of slavery. That's farming...

Are you blind as well as deaf

Been put out of a 65 acre block here of wet Midlands ground at the foot of the slieve blooms by a tillage man, he's apparently giving 370 a acre and giving all the sfp back, space for nature on this block is 20% too so farmable ground is nearer 50 acres, was giving 220 a acre for 2 cuts of silage, no maps etc....

Your really taking the piss now 200/ha give over

Yes.

Half the lies aren't true you know.

Years upon years of hearsay..

The Irish ingrained mentality towards rules is "how do I get around that".

Years of evolution of this repetitive mantra manifests on line with everything being the fault of everyone else's advise.

You won't find a single document advising farmers to expand without facilities. Woodchip pads we're considered a viable option which worked as a viable holding tactic to get in place another option, but in no case was contradiction of regulation ever put forward.

Any farmers I know that expanded did so in line with much if not most of teagasc advise. They have built serious businesses, making eyewatering profits and will steer through any upcoming regulation changes with ease such is their financial strength.

But the problem is that is an outdated summary for finincial details on a dairy farm ,costs have balooned and margin has declined .Any call out breakdown repair nowadays is 1k at least .I have milked 50 /40 acres on my own with the last 18 years ,rented land cost has doubled or more ,how many dairy farmers get 20 k from grants not to mind draw acres .I dont care because I have my money made and did not re invest inside the farm gate 'thank god' .Like the most sucessfull business man locally says he cannot understand 'farmers spending money to make more hardship'

Soil type is very different here so it's less complicated to fix.

If it's protected copper that you're giving it's not doing what you want. The goal has to be to get the mo tied up with copper in the rumen, otherwise it goes into the blood and binds to copper in enzymes etc making them useless. That's where the issues start. If you can get it neutralised in the rumen then it's fairly inert.

Is the ph very high in the ground that’s from ?

No purposely kept low, I spread one bag of physioloth yearly on it purely to have lime at the roots, last year silage of this ground was perfect iron levels and molydenium where barley registering but this year with the wet April and a high water table it boiled up in the ground again

Saw elsewhere she might be running in a different constituency, think she knows her days are numbered where she is.

Nothing wrong in making mistakes as long as ya learn from it. A lot of lads aren't allowed make mistakes by being hamstrung by the parent still holding the reigns