Rosslare Drug Seizure

There are approx 17,000 gardai. Of course there will be a small element in ANY group of 17,000 predominantly male employees.

But because they are gardai, their actions get substantially more press coverage than if they were in a large private company and some people will then jump to a conclusion that due to a very small number of incidents that the force is then "riddled" with corruption.

and it is also true that some criminal elements will try and coerce their way into becoming a garda - just as some gardai will infiltrate criminal gangs so that actions can be thwarted.

But to jump to a conclusion that due to the actions of a very small number that this gives a super highway to drug importers is just plain ridiculous.

...they might be glorifying it, but you gotta ask, is our current approach truly working? this is more than likely just a drop in the ocean of the amount of the stuff making it into circulation, we re currently experiencing an epidemic with the stuff, with a significant rise in teenagers entering rehab, and even a very small percentage of pre teens, now thats scary sh1t!

great podcast on it....

whatever we ve been doing, it aint working!

Yes, both were illegal, like drugs, people still used/practised it despite the law, like drugs and they also involved non-consenting victims like drugs. It is a credible analogy, I'm actually surprised you don't agree.

How do you know I'm mistaken if we legalise drugs, have you a crystal ball. I'd love to see it tried for a couple of years, if the pros don't outweigh the cons by then, we can revert to prohibition but let's not knock it 'til we try it. I don't agree with America's gun laws, but that's probably for another thread. Car accidents involve excess speeding and reckless driving and should be policed robustly, whether drivers take coke or not. Many motorists here condone that by flashing their lights to warn others of a Garda road check. That's probably for another thread too.

...drug use is astonishingly complicated, but you can be damn sure, stress plays a major role for many, then of course theres the pleasure seekers, and everything else in between....

...we ve managed to stress a significant proportion of citizens to the point, they will consume whatever it takes to remove themselves from their painful reality, we cant keep playing this game, many other countries have gone down this road, and a right mess has resulted, parts of the us etc....

...i think those of us that advocate for legalisation, would wanna be careful what we wish for, it wouldnt solve all our problems, it would clearly significantly magnify many of the related issues, thats the reality of it....

like I said, why not try it first, we can revert to prohibition, if the pros don't outweigh the cons

It's a very complex issue.

Well currently in Ireland mental health services are massively under resourced and are struggling. I doubt legalising Concaine and other harsher drugs. Will improve the situation. That issue is fixable tough.

I'm not anti legalisation tough. I'm open to it. Your earlier analogy was fairly poor. I just think we need to know more.

I can't see how keeping cocaine illegal will help under resourced mental health services.

I don't agree that cocaine is addictive, true, some people take more than they should. Most users I know take it at weekends or special events. I last took it at Christmas and I'd rarely use it more than 3/4 times a year, I can't afford to.

No I welcome your opinions. If it were legal, it would be another tax for the state and less money to spend on policing. We'd then have more resources to help the small minority of people who develop problems, mental health etc.

OK, thanks.

How would we police it around night clubs/pubs.

Would it be okay to head in with a few grams in your pocket or would it only be acceptable to do at home?

If we do legalise and it's a massive success. Then it's great however at what point would you consider the situation a failure?

Also more questions

Why do you feel the need to take cocaine?

Have you any concerns about taking it? IE your taking something that's illegal and not regulated and the effects it could have on you and your family?

I am aware that legalising it would allow ot to be regualed more.

Sorry, about the questions. Your sort of the salesman here.

"The rest of the world would disagree" how do you know that, did ask them. I know there's no quality control in the production of cocaine, but that doesn't stop people taking it. I mentioned the successful rock bands 'cos it calls into question the theory that drugs automatically ruin your life. How did cocaine ruin Maradona's life, he came from the slums of Buenos Aires, retired in a luxury house, in Argentina and elsewhere he is/was God and according to Off the Ball he was paid 10,000 sterling per day to be an ambassador for the 2018 World Cup. Not bad for a drug-taking loser. He also lived longer than that other soccer legend, George Best and it wasn't cocaine that ruined his life.