Do you park at fuel pumps without needing fuel?

My local place is terrible you can be waiting 10 plus mins to get to a pump, while you wait for people to browse for stuff they never buy,

Hopefully we can see more of these unmanned petrol stations pop up ,

The worse tends to be long trucks who take up multiple pumps while they sit there eating a sandwich or having a coffee inside the Shop

I know, but I've driven in behind many a vehicle that got fuel and then blocked the pump while they had their coffee and roll inside at a table.

This bugs me-so now if I see someone walk away I'll call to them out the window to move, or if I've the chance I'll pull out and around them, reverse as close as I can and watch them get annoyed when they have to move.

Yes I do, the petrol station I use doesn't have any parking other than at the pumps

I've started to go almost exclusively to unmanned petrol stations, such a much better less stressful experience, there's no discussion inside with the cashier whether you want to spin some wheel to win points to finance a free cup of tea, no person ahead of you struggling to get in touch with their bank manager in Monaco to authorise the €20 of petrol going in to their car. It's card only so no money on card no fuel from the outset, means you pretty much are never waiting for a pump to be free as those doing a shop for a family of 9 will head to the other fuel stations with shops.

No, I'm not a prick.

I’d never park at a pump if I wasn’t refuelling but I’d never move my car until I’d paid at the till.

Yes…

But whats even worse is when it’s an EV parked in the space and not charging…. They should at least know better….

Another thing I have noticed is people who park right at the door of the shop so that the last couple of pumps nearest the door are inaccessible. And one annoying place near me where you can drive in at either end so you are just driving to a pump and someone comes from the opposite direction and parks in front of you, which necessitates some awkward reversing to escape, especially if there is someone behind you.

Some people are inconsiderate pr1cks.

In life in general its probably less than 10% of people but they're always the ones we remember.

If there are no ordinary spaces, then yes, why not I am a customers of the shop or station, is my money not as important as the motorist fuelling up? Seriously people need to calm down.

If not In a rush and physically possible pull up tight beside their drivers door and follow them into shop taking a little longer than them to exit

All that was missing there was pulling the blue badge out of his pocket and nonchantly tossing it on the dash before striding off purposefully. Seen this happen a couple of times btw

Only if you are an EV driver😂

In the old days it was common to see auld lads (this was before the ladies were allowed to drive🤣) pull up outside the door of shops on the main street of busy towns... Shure there was no where else to park nearby

Its a common occurrence where i live. I'm amazed there isn't more road rage incidents at these places.

Seen it done by a Tesla driver. Obviously he's not getting petrol. Pajama wearing mummies of 5 getting breakfast rolls and passat abandoned at the pumps.

In a busy station where i was waiting while I was having my car valeted, an white Audi full of builders parks at the pump. They arrive back after 10 minutes with the chicken rolls and we stay parked at the pump while eating. Couldn't give a sh1t. And then fire the rubbish out on to the ground.

The army abandon their land cruiser at the pumps and sit in the onsite supermacs having their food. oblivious to the people having to drive and manouver around their four wheel drive.

I think its a generation thing, no one gives a toss or has a clue. Fook all consideration for anyone else or their time.

Not saying it doesn’t happen as of course it does, but in 3.5 years of EV ownership I’ve never been blocked by an ICE car at a charger….. though in fairness in the last 12 months I’ve only publicly charged 3-4 times….. Ordinarily I fill up while fast asleep..

Ive only seen on street charger iced but more often by EVs and Phevs not charging.

Jesus! Take a deep breath and relax will you?

Most of the time I've seen a charger ICED recently it was a van doing some work nearby, they seem to have an idea that if the van fits then it's a parking space

I get it if you're carrying a load of heavy equipment in or something, but move the van afterwards please

Seen a lot of EVs and PHEVs sitting on chargers and not charging, hopefully vision systems can help fix that by grabbing the license plate and issuing a fine

As for petrol pumps, I think people generally try to move the car but sometimes fall into a bit of a trap. I know one person who ended up spending 15 mins paying because the machine that takes the fuel cards had to be reset and the poor guy behind the till had no idea what he was doing

Yes but if there is no other spaces (and even if there is) and you are spending money in their business it is reasonable to use the fuel space. They make more money from the coffee than the fuel. Fuel is a loss leader for stations. They would absolutely prefer you block a fuel space and spend 6 euro on 2 coffees than fill with 50 euro of fuel. As an electric car driver i often spend 10euro on junk in a station that is just profit for the shop. Margin on fuel is negligible.

That's a tough one to address. It is almost certain that human nature and concomitant psychology hasn't changed since humans first began to get going on earth. However it is also true that societies have evolved cultural understandings about how behaviour should best be structured.

One great divide in emphasis is that between prioritising the group or the individual. In the west we have gone massively for the individual . This has its good points presumably but also disadvantages. Many people therefore only think of their own individual wants and requirements -everyone else is an 'other' or a competitor who must be defeated.

The thing is they should realise that to everyone else they also are an 'other' !

So e.g. -I slow down any chance I get to let another driver into a long line of traffic because I reason that on another day I will be in that driver's position and hope someone else will similarly accommodate me.

We could make many things in life so much easier if we only thought more of other people. Full reciprocity is rational and functional. But alas too many are locked into pure selfishness to all our cost.