Ukraine (Mod Note & Threadbanned Users in OP)

So, let's consider your lying. It is demonstrably proven in the post linked below.

You asked for evidence. You cited the Guardian as an accepted source. Evidence from the Guardian was provided. Then you denied saying the Guardian was an acceptable source! So now, you change tactics. After having been proved wrong by a Guardian article, now the Guardian is off the list. An entirely self serving argument.

If you think the Russian version of events is accurate, that the Western press version is completely wrong, well it is no wonder you think you have a bridge in Crimea to sell.

You never reveal what would be an acceptable source to you because then information from that source could be used to challenge your pro-Russian prejudged position. It is an entirely bad faith argument.

You will always find some excuse to deny the evidence that is presented to you.

This is proof positive your posts here just an exercise in deliberate muddying of the waters, it is an assault on truth itself. With constant whataboutery.

And you seem utterly incapable of doing perfunctory research yourself into Russian lies. You never give any reason for that. But the reason is obvious. You are just here to spread pro-Russian both sides propaganda.

Because Russia's actions in Ukraine cannot be defended truthfully in open debate, pro-Russian posters resort to these transparent tactics.

Here's the post again with the proof of your lies.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120849464/#Comment_120849464

Lies? Lets start with the beginning of Putin's lying career lie, shall we? His "Election" was based on a blood stained lie...300 people dead in the Moscow,, Buynaksk and Volgodonsk apartment bombings with the bombers caught red handed placing another bomb in an apartment block. They were the FSB and the GRU. Putin blamed the Chechens, and triggered the second Chechen war to solve the Chechen problem. His 23 odd years in power has been a continuous lie.

They are occupying Ukrainian territory the majority of the population centres which are Ukrainian,your trying to use the argument Russian speakers vs Russian citizens

To be fair before 2022, many but not even a majority in Donbass and Luhansk would have identified as ethnically Russian, however it would appear as if the pro-Russian politicans in Ukraine have been slowly rowing back on their stances since the illegal invasion, including the head of OPZZh, Yuriy Boyko, who is now pro-European. I would say that the majority of people were pro-Russian in those regions before the invasion. It's likely different now but obviously difficult to tell.

Not true , explain why the majority of people living in donesk and Luhansk refused free Russian passports for the previous 10 years and the previous 10 years before that

Ah there it is. Whenever someone is reproducing Kremlin talking points, it's always because this Putin world view is close behind it.

Clare Daly uses it in her speeches, typically around the time she votes in favour of Putin and against Europe for the umpteenth time.

If you just won't believe "Western" media about Russian govt.'s track record, or indeed anything it reports about what is happening in Ukraine, I suppose you can hand-wave it away and all is going excellently for Russia (in your view) and to plan. Maybe that is what Putin himself does!

Russia and "the West" are not in a war (as you've claimed a few times) yet unless of a "Cold" variety. For someone so well informed and wise, not falling for the (non) wartime tricks of the Western MSM like us poor plebs mostly reliant on it, how did you get that fact wrong?

Where do you get all the contrarian facts that support Russia is Goliath about to wake + defeat Ukraine (in next 6 months)?

Unusual to see someone still getting excited about military potential of Russia and believing, any day now, they can reverse things in Ukraine and make Putin's wet dreams come true.

If Russia is a giant, imo it is not a strong goliath figure, it looks more like a big loud sack of lard reeking of drink and piss with its best days well behind it. Large, angry and dangerous for sure when picking on their nearby smaller victims. They have overreached this time though, and got a right belt on the nose back.

Without outside help (the Chinese riding in to the rescue?) the only "Goliath" move they have left now in Ukraine IMO is a sucker punch. Pulling some of their WMD out of the cupboard. No doubt you'd find some very good justifications for that action though.

Relevant (again)

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