Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

This one is the most interesting to me for the Fabinho replacement

It be the kind of player under the radar that Liverpool could sign if the journos have been briefed with other names

I think Naby had a few reds before joining us also iirc

Being honest I know feck all about the Brazilian league but we definitely should sign all the Brazilians 😋

Fulham had a £25M offer for him turned down last week. Fluminese are reported to want £35-40M for him to leave in this transfer window.

We haven't had any luck bringing players directly from South America into the first team squad. It would be a massive step up for him, but who knows he could be better than Caicedo who only cost Brighton £5M a couple of years ago and is now valued at £100M. Brighton played a blinder with the way they integrated him, 6 months training with the first team followed by a short loan spell to Belgium and then he was straight into the team.

Terrible helmet posture again! I thought they were professional. Klopp out.

New club, same old story

Bajcetic is 18 year old kid, who is also recovering from injury. No way we can go into a new season with him as our only option at 6!

Spanish publication Nacional claim that Liverpool have ‘asked Barcelona for €12m to close the deal For Thiago’ and now ‘everything depends on Xavi’.

40m for Fab is good going given his levels over the last year or so.

It's early days, we have plenty of time before the window closes to get a replacement in, and for Henderson too. There should be some of the ground work done already surely.

If we follow up last season by getting rid of Milner, Keita, Ox, Fab, Henderson and Thiago it will be the craziest thing I've ever seen 🙈

That's you're opinion on where Fab is at. I only care of what Klopp and his team think and I really don't think Klopp will be a happy man if he's left with an 18 year old as his only defensive midfielder option in 3 weeks!

By all means, take the 40m for Fab if it's on the table, but only if they someone suitable lined up to replace him. 19 year Lavia with 20 senior Premier League games behind is not going to cut it for me either as a replacement.

Seeing as he's being let go without any fuss, I doubt I'm the only one with that opinion of 'where he is at'.

You think?

Evidence from the last year or so would suggest all of these are not able to operate at the very top level, for one reason or other (age, injury profile, form)

Gotta be fvckin ruthless.

Our midfield got completely outplayed last season, I expected a cull, but getting rid of every senior midfielder would be a serious shock . Maybe it's what is needed, total rebuild.

I'd actually be quite happy to replace Fab with a starting quality midfield and a young CB thar can compete VVD when his form drops.

There's ruthless and then there is stupidity, we are sprinting full speed towards the stupidity side of things at this rate.

The club so far has been avoiding a mistake many clubs make in keeping a lot of ex players around as staff in various roles , it's not a good strategy, for every player that is kept around for nostalgic reasons a future star ,or many of them depending on salaries are not being hired,we can't get attached,it has consequences,as said earlier fabinho was left go without a fight, that indicates that klopp etc thought it was for the best, fabinho thought it was for the best,it suits everyone.

If Henderson goes it will be because the people who know alot more, have all the fitness data etc think it's for the best. Trust klopp and his team to make the decisions, enjoy the prospect of a revitalized midfield, the ups and downs,I told you so etc , fabinho will be replaced, whether with a longer-term option or a shorter term one till bajetic grows into it,or the main target becomes available, trust that there is a longer term plan in the background.

What's exciting is how we'll fill the gaps. And, to be honest, I don't think Henderson, Fabinho or Thiago have been world class for a while, certainly not if last year was anything to go by.

Selling Alonso, Suarez, Torres etc was more gut wrenching because they were entering or hitting their peak. Sure, we didn't sell them all in the same window but this rebuild is overdue and waiting to see who we have lined up to replace them all is fascinating.

The team was utterly broken last season, midfield non existent and the only highlights were the younger players like Bajcetic and Jones. Our squad that won everything was built on younger players, why not do it again?

Ah your right, the link to the Athletic fooled me.

Our squad wasn't built on young players when we won everything. It was built on players in their mid to late 20s with one of two exceptions, mainly Trent.

How quickly we forget

I’d say when they were all on the cusp of completing football a mere 14 months ago they were world class.

I bought into the idea of adding some younger dynamic players to our mix of proven experience. Instead we are set to jettison nearly all of our winners for young project players. This is a massive regressive step.

I can accept May 2022 as the high point for a while to come, that’s fine. But the suggestion that the last week is “exciting” is frankly bananas. This will be a long rebuild, and we’ve done loads of these over the years. Exciting they are not.

They learned from the mistake,it seems you would be happier if they didn't.

While I agree a change is needed, stating our squad that won everything was built on young players is not really the case, If we go back to the 18/19 season when it all began to click. 2nd in the league with 97 points (that still hurts) and won the UCL and then going on to win the league the following season. Trent, Gomez a Robbo were the only players u25 and Robbo turned 25 that season. Ali and Fab were 25, Virgil and Winjadium 27, Hendo 28, Milner 32 and actually all of the front 3 were the same age at 26! These guys were in their prime and at the peak of their powers. Now the likes of Bajcetic and Lavia, if we go for him have obvious potential, but are miles away from the experience and physicality required to play in a Liverpool midfield under Klopp week in week out. By all means accept the 40m on offer for Fab as that’s a good deal, but if we are expecting the youth to fill his boots in the long term, then we’re in for a rough few years before any of those mentioned are up to the standard required.

It isn't about forgetting. It's about recognising what you see and what the underlying figures tell us. Fabinho, Henderson and Thiago contributed little last season, Henderson probably the best of the 3 and he's 32.

The Saudis are offering big money to take Fabinho off our hands, more than what he's worth if reports are to be believed. We'll probably get a fee for Henderson too. Thiago seems to miss more than he plays these days. None of them are physically up to a long PL season so why not cash in why we can?

We were overrun repeatedly last season, especially away from home. I'm not remotely suggesting that Lavia stem that tide on his own but with Szobo and MacAllister already on board, In pretty certain we won't be letting players go without having zoned in on their replacements. It may go tits up, sure, but isn't that itself more exciting than watching the dross served up for the majority of last season? It's a yes for me.