No quitten we're whelan on to chitchat 11

30 years is but a grain of sand in the sea. 1798 rebellion in Wexford and the flowing few years had droughts,and higher levels of rainfall in tandem and had burnt 225 years less fossil fuels than now.

And if you look at the 50% increase in flights, you realise that the majority of people don't give a sh... about climate change...... they rate their flights more important

There used to be summers were farmers could do hay the old way, weather was never like this years ago.

hay got no nitrogen manure. Was old meadow, was cocked and rocked and often was saved rather than made. There were years in the fifties where hay was black.

where do we get the idea that “climate change” is a move from favourable conditions perpetually. It was never the case. The 17th century some of the coldest weather in a thousand years for example. What period are we looking to as beings the norm?

In the for periods. The early and mid 19th century seemed to have dry periods however deluges of rain a hurricanes as well.

1983 was very wet. also 85 and 86 summers were wet

The earth takes 365 revolutions of the earth to go around the sun.

Our solar system moves in the milky way galaxy at 800,000 km/h. In 90 seconds we've moved 20,000 km in space.

In 250 million years we'll have done one rotation of our galaxy.

The earth is 4.5 billion years old.

Plants evolved on the earth 700 million years ago.

Edit : for the cod Google what life was like 250 million years ago on earth back one galaxy rotation ago.

Amazing insight that, albeit totally irrelevant to the point I was making🙄 - in any case you could say the same about most global issues like owning an i-phone and not giving a **** about child labour in the Congo were the most important device components are mined illegally - wonderful isn't?? 🎭️

I don't see any point in reducing cattle numbers when flights are increasing at such a rate,

Climate change isn't going to affect me much, ironically the majority of those on flights will be affected and I've little sympathy

Climate change is an industry now. It has been hijacked by lifers.

Unfortunately Birdnuts your attitude is why nothing that’s being done now to “tackle” climate change will make any difference at all. There’s no point one sector being targeted and ignoring all others at the same time, it all needs to happen together.

The changes that are supposedly needed in farming to be the magic pill that solves all of this won’t make a blind bit of difference for as long as there are aeroplanes in the sky at the current rates and increasing all the time, and the amount of rubbish from China that modern people love spending their money on from Amazon or wherever continues.

If us in Ireland completely gave up on farming altogether and left the whole countryside to its own devices to grow wild again do you think that would solve the climate change issue? Like hell it would, the positive effect that such a move might have would be so small it wouldn’t even be possible to measure it.

Unnecessary foreign holidays and overnight couriers are causing more harm to the climate than all the farming in the world a hundred times over.

And there is very little media coverage of the increased number of flights.

If we had any proper leadership the increase in flights would be the first issue to be addressed. We could then increase food production here to feed the masses as we have a temperate climate . As the difference between ourselves and Southern Europe over the past month has shown .

Farmers aren't immune from consumerism though.