Switching electric/gas providers (see first post for links)

If you go on a smart plan you are stuck on smart plans going forward when you try to change provider. The Flogas is the best offer apart from the variable rates offer Waterpower are offering. ONLY sign up to Flogas online, do NOT ring with a load of questions or you will be told you can't get the offer.

might be an idea if someone could compile a post with all the links to the various flogas deal day/night and smart or dual fuel and then report the post so it gets pinned and it can be edited at a later date if need be, that is how the netflix thread was cleaned up and it saves the repetition of questions

Not sure the backlash against the poor, but honest, poster who rang Flogas about the BWG offer is really warranted or justified... It was never going to last anyway and fair is fair if it's only intended for BWG staff in the first place...

Not sure anyone was burning witches, a couple of posters were frustrated because people just don't seem to bother reading a couple of pages back on the thread where all the information anyone needs is there. It has been stated countless times not to ring about these offers but to apply online. Even the amount of posters asking what BWG is shows nobody will look back or google it!

I don't know the legalities about the offers whether once you apply or ask for it are you entitled to be offered the same offer as the target base. I do know though that the more people ringing asking questions about the offers raises a red flag with c/s so if people just read back it saves having to keep trying to find the new offers with a new name if that is the case.

😂. Maybe sticky that.

Is that Flogas community offer still available for rural day 33.38 c/unit & 14.75 c/ unit night incl vat?

If so do I ring them or sign up online?

it is very easy if you are a regular visitor here to assume this knowledge is clearly stated just a couple of pages ago. I read several pages back trying to find what BWG was and all references were self referential with no explanation as to what it was or who it was for and it just got frustrating. Boards search is broken so I googled it and found BWG Foods but didn't understand how that would be relevant to an energy plan. I STILL don't know who the "community plan" is for. It was stated it was a renamed BWG Foods plan but does this mean it is still somehow limited to BWG Foods employees as it no longer references them? I am deliberately saying BWG Foods here because that one word addition would have made it so much easier to understand what "BWG" meant in context.

By nature this will be a topic that will always have people arrive looking at the last couple of pages and trying to figure out the best deal. If people don't want their free slightly cheaper ride ruined by people calling up Flogas (and you're probably all over estimating how efficient feedback from the front line support is at getting anything changed in marketing) the easiest thing to do is to just answer the same questions over and over I'm afraid.

To keep the information flowing (and feel free to correct any of this):

The BWG Foods Tariff, apparently for BWG Foods Employees, is not available to be signed up to anymore.

There's a similar or same Tariff available under the name "community plan" which is discoverable via Google so there are no restrictions in the Public getting this information currently.

https://www.flogas.ie/flogas-community-plan-electricity-fixed-1-yr.html Electricity community plan.

https://www.flogas.ie/dual-fuel/flogas-community-plan-fixed-dual-fuel-1-yr.html Dual fuel community plan

I can't find a link to the gas one. The one marked in google goes straight into a gas sign up process without listing the tariff.

Is this "community plan" meant for some subset of people? Unclear to me at this time. If you're switching from someone else there doesn't appear to be a downside to signing up for these tariffs over the regular ones online and many have with no issue but this comes with no guarantee.

Can you sign up for this plan if you signed up for another tariff with Flogas? Unclear but it seems like calling them might have them deny existence of these plans. I'd really like to know this personally because this is where I am at the moment.. signed up to a regular tariff but still in a cooling off period. If I felt I could get the other one by calling up and being nice or otherwise I would but I haven't because I want to figure the best chance of success. If that is saying "oh I work at Spar and I discovered that I could have gotten this can I be switched please?" I'll do that but I am still trying to get that answer who the community tariff is meant for. I'd appreciate if someone who knows could tell me.

If you're going to call a company, make sure you know what BWG is and what the deal is. It really isn't hard.

Nobody can tell you what to do, its a weird situation. If I was you, I'd cancel the switch, wait a few days and try and sign up through the link. Worst case, you're told no and can sign up on what you were moving to anyway. The alternative is to call them and ask them to switch you to the Community Plan (but nobody appears to know why or for who this plan exists).

People can be two ends of the spectrum on Boards.ie

It used to be years ago that fellow posters would try to be helpful and answer questions/provide links to information, however recently, that's changed to a meaner more confrontational attitude from a lot of posters

The post you were responding to did genuinely try to find the information first but it's difficult to find

If you know the answer, you could just answer the question instead of being so bloody minded

I had to go back months, and dozens of pages into the history of this thread to find out what the actual rates for the BWG deal were, and remember, there are 3 different packages depending on if it's electricity, gas or Dual fuel

I had to go all the way back to April to find the original mention of BWG with the original signup link

https://www.flogas.ie/exclusive-06-23/dual-fuel/exclusive-dual-06-23.html (currently down)

It appears to refer to the rates below (for dual fuel)

And these seem to currently match the Community tariff for Dual Fuel

So I think all references to BWG can be kinda ignored now that the same deal is available as the community fixed plan tariff and available to everyone

It is significantly cheaper than most of the other suppliers offerings so unless you think suppliers will further drop their prices between now and winter, then it's worth looking at this offer and fixing your costs for the next 12 months

The poster had signed up with SSE then the very next day signed up with FloGas. Their transfer was (obviously) cancelled. They called FloGas. Highlighted the BWG deal and appeared surprised it was only for staff.

I've answered many peoples queries. The OP had the links already, should have known enough, and then decided to call and highlight it to FloGas. Seriously, have some cop on.

This thread is very helpful to people. It's saved me and my family (Mum and Dad) quite some cash.

First flogas bill in, signed up on June 14th and whilst I think it's mid-cycle bill I'm very happy with the changes, down from 590 with energia to 80 with flogas (in reality it's probably more like 220-240 as the bill is only for 24 days as opposed to usual). And yeah the energia bill is winter months so not exact comparison but still nice.

Nice to finally confirm the correct rate of 29c from the BWG without ringing up and ratting on everyone :P

Anyone having difficulty finding information in a long thread such as this should try this “trick” to search any site with or without its own search box.

Use the “site:” operator in a Google search query to search the contents of any site, whether or not it has a search box of its own. For example, try putting this in a Google search query:

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I rang Flogas today and asked if they could tell me what Fight Club was.

Had a guy from SSE Electricity call to the door today. Apparently, they are launching new plans very soon including one with a night unit rate of around 10.5c. Was also offering €150 bill credit to compensate for breaking contracts with current provider.

Needless to say, without written confirmation of unit rates I didn't sign up to anything. But something to keep an eye on...

That would mean they're making zero margin on night electricity, maybe even selling at a loss.

10.5c/kWh ex-VAT is approximately what you pay on the wholesale market at the moment. Pass-through charges are 0.627c/unit during the night when you're on a Nightsaver rate, so that doesn't push their cost too much, but still.

That would mean they're able to make a sufficient margin on day electricity + standing charges alone. I'm not saying that's impossible, but very aggressive if this turns out to be true.

(Pass-through charges are 4.933c/unit during the day on a Nightsaver rate. And wholesale prices are about the same. So their margin would be anything above 16c/unit.)