Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

Yeah, that integration factor basically writes off the top-tier aspirations for this season for me. We all know how reluctant Klopp is to throw even one tactically-important player in over their first few months at the club... it might've been possible to have some sort of challenge if the new players could be eased into the system seamlessly enough around the old heads, but with all the experience gone they'll just have to give it a lash. And we don't even have the benefit of the old pro's showing the new guys the practical aspects of their positions, since all the experienced lads who ever played 6 or 8 for us are now gone.

What are they going to show them, how not to run around?

That midfield was an absolute disgrace last season! I'm glad they are all gone, none of this sentimentality and experience. I know they were class at one stage but they have all regressed sadly.

Anywag we've gotten a world cup winner and a Hungarian captain livewire in so far along with hopefully 2 more in and I can't wait for next season. Think something special is happening. Diaz fully fit and a new cb would be a dream.

This is delusional stuff tbh, but I suppose football fans love new things and are generally short-term in their perspective.

The team was poor last season, but that should have been expected in the context of a massive emotional comedown on a very short off-season.

I bought into a last hurrah with Keita / Milner / Ox / Firmino cleared out and effectively replaced by Diaz / McAlister / Sobs. Everyone would be hungry and rested, and we could have a last run.

But Hendo and Fab going completely changes the equation; how could it not? We will now have an entirely new midfield; we have lost lots of experience and will be integrating many young and unproven players. The reality here is quite obvious if you can step back briefly. All teams' age and time remains undefeated in life and sport. We hoped to pull rabbits out of the hat to find replacements because we cannot compete financially with City, Newcastle and Utd.

This is not about Hendo, Fab, Milner and Keita being right to go. These moves are prudent squad moves; they make financial sense. But it signals that our run with Klopp is over. Maybe we come back strong the following season, but VVD, Salah, and Thiago will likely be dropping off at that point. The reality is hard to accept; I get that. It's sad.

Bobby, Ox, Keita, Henderson, Arthur were all earning between 100k - 180k a week. Fabinho still is. Milner was on reduced wages but still a pretty penny. I'd guestimate that they were taking home around 800k a week between them.

With only AMA & Szoboszlai signed, I'd guess that there is around 220k ish currently being offset against that. That's a very large difference.

It's a lot of bodies out and not enough in yet. Lot of experience out with low experience in. Still need another midfielder in, possibly 2.

The club needs to decide soon whether they want to go down the route of bringing in 2 midfielders, at least one being a dedicated DM, or whether to bring in one midfielder and one CB. This latter route would allow more confidence to be placed in Bajectic, Jones & Elliott. And that is the route I think the club will take. Thiago will leave next summer so maybe they will look at delaying recruiting experienced replacements until then.

All very well going for PL proven but this is the premium you pay. First thing I heard about us being linked was yesterday.

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It's also madness because now every team knows we desperately need reinforcements so they will play hardball. This is a nightmare scenario now for the transfer committee. I can't see this been resolved easily within the next 3 weeks before the season gets underway, this summer is slowly becoming a disaster after such a positive start!

If he's worth £70m you may leave it so. A good grafter who does plenty of work but isn't in the top bracket or the tier just below.

We were told there was about £150m to spend this summer and we've spent £100m already. We're getting £50m from Henderson and Fabhino and will probably get another £30m from sales so they need to go and buy an excellent CB to push VVD and a starting DM.

Colwill is the heavily linked CB but will Chelsea sell now with their injuries? Maybe Laporte will be sold now by City with Garvidol coming in, but would they sell to us? We've been linked with Schurr as well but I don't know much about him.

Adams from Leeds looks good based on a recent TAW video for DM and not someone I would have even thought of. Maybe he'd be available for a reasonable fee? We were linked with Sangare a few years ago and those links seem to be popping up again in the last day or two. Could be an option and having played with Gakpo previously it might help him to settle quicker.

Next season will be a very strange one. If we start well it'll get confidence up and we can build on that. My worry would be after losing Henderson and Milner the standards expected in the squad from themselves may slip slightly and if we hit a bad patch the heads may drop.

Probably never did, just a yesman for it.

Or maybe just doesn't care about wrongful deaths as long as they aren't English either way a dire attitude.

How am I?

Saudis are not responsible for many many atrocities? I suggest you do some research!

A month ago we were aiming for a title challenge, now we'll struggle for top four.

Maybe he is genuine but that is my take on it, wheter its the case or not do can you not see a hint of contradion yourself?

He is campaigning on a yearly basis for justice on wrongful deaths and was seemingly committed to various other goodwill campaigns

He now pursues his career in Saudi, wrongful deaths and human rights violations commonplace.

Now if he goes on similar campaigns there I'll be first to applaud but I do suspect not the case.

Henderson going to Saudi makes a mockery of his previous social justice positions, that's just the reality of it.

Every man clearly has a price

Who was the last Liverpool captain to be sold? It's very rare. Most retire or leave the club of their own will to drop down a league etc.

Henderson has thrown away his legacy now, especially off the field, and it leaves a sour taste.

Yeah it’s a sad day

Sounness left for Italy after doing the treble in 84 (having just turned 31). That would be the last time a Club Captain left with a similar type of impact.

Henderson's logic could be to "get the bag" but bring it home and help the causes that he has been supporting these past years.

Or am I being too naive?

I dunno, it's a strange time really. There is a part of me that hopes for a great reset but I don't think that's going to happen.

At the moment football feels like a passing curiosity and it's hard to get really invested in it.

Really ****, disappointing ,bitter ending to a stellar Liverpool career. Yes I know the money but I don't know what he's thinking, he's the captain of Liverpool football club on big money as is, got a few years left in him yet, then there's his outspoken support of LGBTQ.

I won't say his legacy is tarnished or anything, he's one of the most decorated captains in the clubs history but just really disappointing end.

It's all a bit mad, but it's what's needed ultimately, the club left the midfield situation fester a season too long and they're unfortunately reaping the rewards (though I'd prefer to keep Fab)

Once Henderson entertained the idea of leaving I'd imagine that was that with regards to Klopp, if he's chasing the bag then so be it, his head is obviously not 100% on Liverpool and that's obviously what Klopp demands (especially the club captain).

The fees, personally i don't think 12 million for a past it Henderson is "disgraceful" and more importantly the wage bill significantly reduced puts us in a good position to reinvest. Two more needed so let's see what happens.

On the leadership thing, so what, city have moved their captains/leaders on for years now once they are passed it and move forwards. We've multiple national team captains at the club, our latest arrivals are a world cup winner and another national team captain FFS. Big onus on said players to step forward, this is the start of Klopp/Liverpool 2.0. Do you want in or out?

One thing i will say on the Hendo transfer, Klopp might have viewed it as Hendo owes him/us nothing, he's ran himself into the ground for us for 12 years, lets not make it difficult for Hendo to get a final big payday, we'll ask for a reduced transfer fee as a parting present.

Hendo will go down as one of the greatest Liverpool midfielders and captain in the clubs history, regardless of if he moves to saudi or Mars.

Thanks for a great 12 years Hendo.

Gerrard's part in it will not be forgotten, he's the person who fingered Henderson, no one else.

It’s been far too long.

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