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COYGIG - Women’s Football World Cup 23 **Mod Warning in Post #58**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭Nerdlingr


    amazing what a change there is when you play mc cabe in a position where she can affect the game. shes lost at left back.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    Unlucky, could have easily got a draw out of that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 223 ✭✭Sadler Peak


    Jaysus Austrailia just fell off after going 1 up.

    Was it nerves ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,968 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,238 ✭✭✭amacca


    Jack Charltons side were way better imo.... almost in spite of the hoof it up tactics....when they got it up there they frequently kept it there for significant amounts of time...it didn't come straight back bypassing an almost non existent midfield.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭Nerdlingr


    barrett must be bulling to not get a run out. crying out for a finisher.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Try listening to 2FM instead of the TV - we played brilliantly and were hard done by. Deserved a draw and penalty was very soft. Loads of positives to take away and created a legacy. Heartened by the performance etc etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭Nerdlingr


    poor first half (possession wise) but they really went for it the last half an hour after Australia scored. loads of corners and free kicks and could easily (and deservedly) equalized. defence was strong just lacking that finisher up front, also need to play McCabe in midfield.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,904 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    At least they made the 90mins without walking off the pitch...

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,577 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    I'd say the Irish player got caught ball watching and then all of a sudden she was on top of the Aussie. It didn't look like a push, it looked like a player who was trying to stop herself from falling and used the player in front of her to do so.


    Still a peno. Just unfortunate.


    Poor girl, you could see she was heartbroken



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    Off topic. You also can't really judge Charlton's team by football today. At that time, the Charles Hughes' POMO theory was the predominant school of thought in coaching circles in this part of the world. The English league was eye bleedingly long ball at the time. Charlton's team was of its time and he did an incredible job - there's a lot of retrospective hypothesizing about how well "we should have done" despite having gotten nowhere near those heights before or since.


    On topic. Shame they lost that. Only caught the last couple of mins though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,767 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Massive last minute chance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭DeanAustin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    First 2 matches combined had 7 shots on target. I doubt I'll be watching too much of this tournament.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭KaneToad




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,041 ✭✭✭griffin100


    Clare Shine on the 2FM commentary was dire, it was like listening to a pub ‘expert’. The stuff after the match about just getting there being a victory in itself was cringeworthy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭Mo Ghile Mear


    I’d say Vera will be satisfied with the performance. They put it to the Aussies despite being very much the underdogs. Such a shame about the penalty. It looked like Sheva was just steadying herself against the Aussie girl rather than a deliberate push. Unfortunate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,547 ✭✭✭Archduke Franz Ferdinand


    Are they the women fans that you’re ranting about with stubby fingers and cans of beer? I think most women fans are quite well behaved tbh and as for their stretched, protruding pink stomachs, did it not occur to you that those women might be pregnant???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,763 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Good performance on the big stage. I hope they are not too tired after that exhausting game.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,859 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    Jack Daw and StrawbsM (Fix! Fix!) off to a good start today. 😀



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭TheProudHighway


    At least they made it to a world cup which seems entirely beyond the men's team.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,923 ✭✭✭✭Liam O


    Yes because the matches are on weekday mornings. I mean if it was the men's, yeah there would be a lot more interest but there's not an awful lot of sporting events on weekday mornings that would drive a lot of convenience store traffic is there?



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭CGI_Livia_Soprano
    Holding tyrants to the fire


    So what? Nobody should be interested because you and your friends aren’t? The height of conceit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭cagefactor


    Tried watching it, switched it off it. Just not interested in watching people play soccer who have skill level of 13 year old boys.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,238 ✭✭✭amacca


    I dunno looked like a stone cold penalty to me....I'm not sure I buy the just steadying herself at all tbh...either way that's one thing you should do your damndest not to be doing in the penalty area....hands to the back like that and you can't have many complaints imo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,968 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    I didn’t see it. Was it really that bad?

    RTÉ are hyping it like it’s the pinnacle of world football artistry levels like the Brazil 1970 vintage, is that not how it is?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,968 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Even the lack of activity on this thread tells its own story.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭optogirl


    Do you go into threads about other sports you don't enjoy and tell everyone there that you & your friends aren't into it? Football competitions, in general, are hyped up beyond all belief by the media. Every ad has a footballer in it, every snack is giving away merch and on it goes. All good, I love a tournament. An Irish women's team has made the World Cup. It is a thing to be celebrated. This thread is for people who are rooting for them and proud of their achievement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭naughtyboy


    If you are going to play a defensive game than you need pace to counter on the break, Mccabe and Payne were simply playing way too deep. Mccabe needs to play alongside osullivan on the left and Payne needs to play upfront because her high energy can put pressure on the opposing backs. At times today the aussies were playing their way out way too easy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭waywill1966


    Did anyone say it yet?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    Do you think they will make any changes for the Canada game?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭Shank Williams


    Plenty watching/keeping an eye on it in my workplace- lads and ladies

    ya just know half the lads getting digs in on this thread are lads picked last at school

    In a way they’ve been shafted by the time difference let’s see what happens if they somehow get out of group- game on a Sunday if they do



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭naughtyboy


    I hope so , there is no point playing a defensive game where all you do is defend and chase players.

    Being fair we showed way too much respect to Australia and when we chased the game we played alot better.

    I would start Caldwell, place connolly in front of the back 3, drop Littlejohn, and positionally switch both mccabe with sheva and Payne with farrelly.

    The Irish girls need to control the middle better against Canada, pack it more and sheva farrelly osullivan and connolly I think it would work better



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    I really don't get the minority posters criticism of the team, even resorting to dragging up a nonsense about sectarian songs, just pathetic.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,767 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    I didn’t know it but seemingly Canada are the No1 team in the world. Tough group .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,705 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Not number one by any means. Thats the USA by a wide margin. Canada are 7th. They did win the Olympic tournament though, maybe some media you read interpreted that as best in the world?

    It is a slightly unfortunate draw for Ireland team-wise as Australia (ranked 10th in women's) and Canada would generally be a soft draw in Men's football which to a certain extent is the prism we look through. If we had drawn say Brazil and Italy (ranked 8th and 16th) then it would be of similar difficulty but those names would seem much more impressive and going toe-to-toe would get more credit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,767 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    I heard they were Olympic champions and thought they were no 1



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭hamburgham


    The media coverage is very jarring. It’s completely at odds with reality, no one has the faintest interest. I’m female and have always believed in encouraging women’s participation in sport but I find something really off about pretending this is a really exciting world event.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,338 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I agree. But I feel they are facing a losing battle as to have a successful women's football you must not only get the women interested to participate, but also to watch it. If the woman's sport is dependant on the male population it only ends up as a pretence. The majority of women are not interested in watching sport, never mind women's sport. Maybe it will change and the generations younger than you might get this interest. But most girls lose interest in sport when they hit their teens.

    If the WNBA - women's basketball is anything to go by, just throwing money at it to generate interest is not the way to go. it is still a laughing stock after well over twenty years despite being heavily subsidised by the male NBA - the main demographic that follow women's basketball are middle aged men. And the crowds are very low.

    The reality is bar tennis all year round (which is an outlier IMO) for women's events - the tickets have to given away for free/cheap to get a crowd. It does not generate interest nor do majority of sports supporters take it seriously. But I suppose they have to at least look like they are doing something - equality so on and so forth.

    Post edited by gormdubhgorm on

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,780 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,904 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    What I noticed from watching about 10minutes of the opening game was the absolute dread in Darragh Maloneys voice of saying anything that might cause offence.....

    Really poor quality and skill (that would be highlighted and destroyed ad nauseum in the mens game) is glossed over and just accepted...

    Womens soccer - Zero criticism allowed, with endless euphemistic guff..... "She was unlucky there", "She will be disappointed with that", "Amazing atmosphere" etc

    Mens soccer - Maximum Criticism encouraged and rewarded..... input your Roy Keane quotes here....

    Finally, Can you imagine if a mens team walked off from a game that was deemed " too physical"....they would be labelled a national disgrace.....

    If you want equality and the same pay....expect the same levels of criticism.....

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,012 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Tend to agree with a lot of the comments here.

    The media are hyping this up big time, and I have heard comparisons to Ireland qualifying for their 1st men's WC in 1990. Its not even remotely similar.

    Yes it's a huge achievement for the girls on the team, but in 1990 the entire nation bought into our participation. There was a natural, massive interest. For this, I think the media are trying to tell us we are excited, when the majority aren't.

    It's down to the fact that the women's game doesn't have the same attraction as the men's game, which is understandable. It's gaining traction for sure, but it will reach its natural peak, and after that you won't get any more supporters.

    I can understand the media bombarding us with it too. It's their job. We should all be patriotic and cheer them on, but for many they simply won't buy into it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,129 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    That last line doesn't make sense. They aren't receiving equal treatment in those other areas. So isn't much of a justification for equal criticism.

    If anything, you're just highlighted why the relaxed criticism is appropriate



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,547 ✭✭✭Archduke Franz Ferdinand




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    Switzerland beating Philippines 2 goals to nil. Last minutes of the game.

    I thought they were going to rein in the added on time but it seems as bad as it was in Qatar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    Oh I missed this one

    That has Ireland at the bottom of the table with first games of the group complete



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 360 ✭✭Scrabbel


    That's actually a good result for us. Our 2 main rivals for the 2nd qualifying spot both dropping 2 points. A win and a draw is now likely to be enough for us.



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