The Flash

The Chris Pine Star Trek movies are multiverse.

The Happy Death Day movies did that trope as well.

I'd say with Morbius, everyone had low expectations and knew what to expect, so it just ticked along at that level. With The Flash, there was a lot of buzz in the last few months about how great the film was, and it ended up being a disappointment, which then puts people off seeing it altogether. Not to mention the issues with Ezra Miller, the fact they're striking when the iron is stone f*cking cold given how long the film has been in production and the death of the DCEU, and they gave away far too much of the film in trailers.

Morbius had the advantage of being so cheesey and laughably bad that some people went for fun.

You're not factoring in their respective budgets, or that generally movies need to make 2.5x that budget (accounting for marketing spend and cinemas taking around 50% of ticket sales). Morbius cost $70m. Catwoman cost $100m. Flash cost $200m. Eternals cost $236m. Technically Morbius actually came closest to making a profit and maybe has done from VOD sales.

Because the reputation of this film hasn't been tarnished enough...

They can't get people to pay for the movie with actual money. Now they're trying to sell special digital versions as NFTs which are, pretty much as we speak, falling through the floor in price as a whole.

Warners dropped it on VOD today.

I guess they want to try and make some money from it while it is somewhat still current.

I watched it on HBOmax last nigh and I liked it. Some real laugh out loud moments. Story was great. Close enough to the original comic.

Keaton was class, the multiverse additions were a nice surprise, as I had aboided the spoilers. Supergirl was beautifful and nailed the role. Surprised to see she has only been in The Young and the restless for a billion episodes.

So watched this last night not expecting much and as much as I wanted to dislike it I didn't - it's actually a decent watch, for the most part.

Whatever about his train wreck of a personal life Ezra Miller was fairly good in the dual role and Michael Keaton really elevated the whole thing a few notches. Supergirl was pretty OK as well I thought, liked the actress and it didn't come off as hammy as I expected.

The biggest problems for me were the god-awful FX in many spots and honestly, the whole opening 10 minute sequence was a massive cringe fest and absolutely did not have to be there, and the movie would've been incomparably better for it.

I thought the bad CGI in the opening scene might be due to its inclusion later in the production cycle, it has a powerful whiff of that with it's early 2000's level CGI.

But it continues at random points throughout the movie, one minute it looks like a $200m movie, the next it looks worse than the low-budget Flash TV show on CW.

There's one scene where they phase through the door and I am not exaggerating when I say the digital overlaid face on one of them actually looks like a soul-less PS2 cut-scene render, we all burst out laughing.

Usually I wouldn't let weaker FX get in the way of my opinion for most movies, especially not if it's consistent at least, but there was absolutely no excuse for this one.

Overall I'd still say it's a solid 6/10 for me, despite it all I genuinely enjoyed it, far more so than most of the other recent DC movies which are almost universally awful in my personal opinion like WW84, Black Adam, Shazam 2, etc.

I really think they were on the right track with the original Zynderverse, Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, Justice League Znyder cut, etc. DC really fell down when they decided to poorly emulate the Marvel movies rather than doing their own thing.

I still think Man of Steel, BvS and JS Zynder cut are head and shoulders the best of the DC movies, first Wonder Woman is OK as well.

Though it can be done well in that format too, as James Gunn has proven very well with the likes of The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker, both of which are excellent.

Birds of Prey doesn't get mentioned much but I found that one also surprisingly decent.

So, overall, The Flash - I'd agree with people saying it deserved to do better than it did, because despite it's massive flaws, it's nowhere near as bad as a lot of the DC content that came before it and honestly better than some of the recent Marvel efforts as well.

The problem at this point is that people are fatigued enough with Marvel, they just don't want to invest the time in Marvel's poor relation.

good review, the ropey special effects didn't bother me either.

good movie, lots of fun. supergirl was hot.

Yeah, I’d echo a lot of people here, I’m surprised how much I enjoyed it - the director is to be applauded for making an entertaining film out of the trainwreck of a production.

The CGI is indeed ropey as hell, distractingly bad in the opening sequence, but I sort of got used to it as I was watching, probably helped by being generally entertained by it.

Keaton stole the show, he is still brilliant as Batman and could easily carry a Dark Knight returns type film, a shame he won’t get the chance.

The film was a massive bomb, and that’s likely what it will be remembered for, but that was moreso just disinterest from the audience about a soon to be rebooted series and the antics of its lead of recent times. As a comic book film, it was solid entertainment. Far better than a lot of recent MCU entries(GOTG3 aside of course).

lol that is some loss, their budgets were out of of control