FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3 - Threadbanned User List in OP

I did read the article, thats why I posted it.

A political party can say anything they want for posturing reasons in public statements. The only way to accurately judge them is based on the policies they implement, or block. The Greens quite literally single handedly blocked that fourth energy credit - there are plenty of articles out there on it, thats just the one with the highest SEO. Feel free to check out the rest.

As a coalition party its entirely within their power to block (or implement) policy, which they regularly do. The choice wasn't paying an energy credit in summer or winter, it was going to be both if FF & FG had their way.

And, again, this is only one policy they've implemented this year that hurt every household in the country. Their insistence on the carbon tax hike being implemented this year, despite the cost of living crisis, has cost the average household hundreds and hundreds of euros more.

Theres just no defense of their actions in government - they've paid no attention to helping anyone financially struggling in the country, instead focusing heavily on punitive financial measures. Which is why they're now polling at 2-4% and facing electoral wipeout. And why climate change is only polling at being a major issue of concern for 4% of the population.

The Greens here have managed to successfully destroy both support for themselves and for environmentalism in Ireland, at a time when more and more people globally are starting to care about climate change. Its an achievement almost impressive in its terribleness.

I'm sure the families struggling through the cost of living crisis who were denied that 200euro credit would disagree with it being a "waste of millions". As I said before, the choice wasn't between a spring energy credit and a winter energy credit. We'll be getting a winter energy credit either way. It was between a spring energy credit or no energy credit, and the Green party are solely to blame for it being no energy credit.

The Greens get air time based on their own policies. If they hadn't blocked the spring energy credit, or insisted on the increase in the carbon tax, nobody would be talking about either.

Given the Greens got 7.1% of the vote in the last election, but are currently polling at 2-4%, obviously plenty of people who voted for them are planning on not doing so again based on their performance in government. Anywhere from 50% to 66% of the people who voted for them abandoning the party is extremely damning. Especially a time when more and more people are becoming aware of environmental issues, and other, better run, Green parties across Europe are commonly polling at 15%+...

Oh no, the Minister might have to comment on a justice issue that cannot be attributed to homophobia, the right wing element,...

Of course normally McEntee is kept fully occupied with ignoring the Irish public's objections to her hate speech legislation and delaying reform to our shameful defamation laws (which conveniently prevent our press from commenting on her husband's completely normal job).

https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2023/07/20/us-tourist-has-life-changing-injuries-after-dublin-city-centre-attack-involving-three-youths/

Instead of funding the Gardai FFG are spending our money on NGO's to convince us they're protecting us from amorphous threats: climate crisis, migration crisis, online bullying, gender hate crimes,...

I think you have some reading/comprehension difficulties going on there.

I said the Greens suggested helping poorer families but then did nothing. What they did actually achieve, in reality, was single handedly blocking the fourth energy credit that both of the other government parties wanted to issue to every household. Which would have been a fantastic help for struggling households nationwide in our cost of living crisis.

If you didn't understand that point from the outset then it would explain why you didn't understand why the Greens are hemorrhaging support, though. Hopefully it makes more sense now :)

I thought you were done replying after the previous post?

The government should absolutely provide specific help to struggling families, but that was unfortunately never on the table. The issue was giving a fourth 200euro energy credit or not doing so. With FF & FG wanting to do the former, and the Greens the latter. And the Greens unfortunately won, costing every struggling household in the country that money. As they did with the carbon tax hike, too.

Its an odd hill to keep returning to to die on. If even the socially parsimonious FG were in favour of giving the money to struggling families its a good sign it would have been useful. But the Greens objected because they argued it would increase energy consumption, which makes it a perfect example of their upper-middle class environmentalist policy making that hurts working class and rural people.

The Green Party in Ireland are having a highly disproportionate impact on policy, for the size of their representation.

Its not an obsession that a majority of people want that impact reduced, its simply a legitimate complaint.

I accept that a lot of environmental policy would be enacted by a coalition Government that did not include the Greens, purely as a consequence of commitments Ireland has to international agreements on the matter.

But, certain local policies being championed specifically by the Greens in Ireland, that have negligible overall impact on sustainability improvements and only serve to add to the cost of living pressures already experienced by the Irish people, are being indulged by the other coalition partners in a case of the tail wagging the dog.

And it is this situation that gives rise to a strong desire, call it an obsession if you will, for the Green Party to be destroyed electorally, so we can return to some sort of reason and proportion, with respect to environmental and sustainability policy.

Wrong about no other party:

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058200511/social-democrats/p21

Check again:

I just opened the page again, so you are wrong.

Pathetic juvenile rubbish with more than a hint of homophobia.

Whatever he or anyone else does on their own time with their own money is their own fúcking business.