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Supporting craft breweries

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    #3422
    Hodors Appletart
    Registered Users Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120807578#Comment_120807578

    more power to you friend, people should absolutely drink what they want.



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    #3423
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,807 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Sure. But paying premium prices for weak beer has no appeal to me...

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #3424
    breezy1985
    Registered Users Posts: 25,942 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    If I saw a brewery I didn't recognize trying to seel beer for the "craic" or the "sesh" I would definitely assume that it's some macro trying con me.

    The percentage of a beer doesn't bother me but sessionable so often means weak flavour with macro or the "invested in" craft.



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    #3425
    Macy0161
    Registered Users Posts: 9,434 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    The branding wouldn't be for me, but I'll reserve judgement on the beer until I try them. In fairness to Brian, I know he homebrews and was quite involved in the craic collabs/ contract (delete as you feel appropriate).



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    #3426
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users Posts: 4,050 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120808602#Comment_120808602

    A good session beer for me will be something under 4.5%, will be as flavourful as a full strength beer, and won't be watery either - I just won't end up on my ear after a good few pints/cans over the course of a day's drinking at a family event or bbq. White Hag's Little Fawn or Hope's Hop-On would be good examples. Yum! I mean, I'm all for quality over quantity, but sometimes I just know I'm going to having more than four or five beers, you know?

    Untappd seems to think anything under about 6% is a session beer, but, er, no! 🤣



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    #3427
    breezy1985
    Registered Users Posts: 25,942 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120809198#Comment_120809198

    Session beer from a craft brewery is every bit as good as the other beers a craft brewery do.

    It's not the marketing as a session beer but rather as a "beer for the sesh" that I think is a misstep from a craft brewer. If it wasn't for this thread I would assume the beer posted earlier was made by the same people as Cute Hoor or was one of those breweries who instantly after being "invested in" brings out some cheap crap pilsner like Fran Well or Beavertown.



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    #3428
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users Posts: 4,050 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120809282#Comment_120809282

    Fair point. I avoided Rye River for a couple of years because of their original cringe plastic paddy marketing.



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    #3429
    Pen Rua
    Registered Users Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    I'll give the Sesh Beer Co a punt if they land in Bradley's purely on the strength on some of the Craic Beer labelled stuff I've had. Plus, I'm glad to see more session strength beers (whatever your definition) irrespective of the poor branding.



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    #3430
    youcancallmeal
    Registered Users Posts: 8,019 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    Any word on whether White Hag are doing a boxtravaganza this year?



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    #3431
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,807 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    White Hag's Little Fawn

    They used to love padding out the Clann boxes with these...

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #3432
    JoeLapira
    Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭JoeLapira


    A good few indie breweries have closed in the last 12 or so months. Great to see a new brand on the scene regardless of their branding etc.


    Up the Sesh!!!



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    #3433
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,807 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    We'll session through the recession.

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    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #3434
    Hodors Appletart
    Registered Users Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    I got a taste if the IPA last night in UD, surprisingly decent, if not a little thin



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    #3435
    irish_goat
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,791 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    I assume they are brewed at Hope?



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    #3436
    BeerNut
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,864 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    They are.

    My beer blog | The Twitter | My other beer blog



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    #3437
    Yeah Right
    Registered Users Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    Anyone looking for a decent session beer should try Weights and Measures in any of the GBB pubs.

    You wouldn't realise it's a session IPA if you were handed a pint of it.



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    #3438
    Tinter Box
    Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭Tinter Box


    Re Boxstravaganza. I Just got the email there. I tried using the discount code supplied as well ( unsuccessfully) 😝



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    #3439
    flended12
    Registered Users Posts: 350 ✭✭flended12


    Holidaying put Weshhhht shortly. Booked the Mescan Tour, anyone ever do it?



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    #3440
    Pen Rua
    Registered Users Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    I may find myself with a few hours free on an afternoon in Sligo soon.

    Are there any particular bars or off licenses worth stopping by?



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    #3441
    irish_goat
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,791 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Swagman's and Thomas Connolly's are the 2 bars that stand out for me, but anytime I've been in them has been post-Hagstravaganza so it's a low bar.



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    #3442
    dominatinMC
    Registered Users Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120871411#Comment_120871411

    Thomas Connolly's all the way for me. Top class old school bar, with craft options of course.



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    #3443
    L1011
    Registered Users Posts: 68,760 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I prefer Hardagons for the old school with craft, but they're both decent.



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    #3444
    youcancallmeal
    Registered Users Posts: 8,019 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    I was in Northern Italy for a 2 week family holiday and it struck me how cheap craft beer was(In a supermarket/off license) compared to Ireland. This was from actual craft brewers like Mastri Birrai Umbri, 620 Passi, Mall and Birra Flea amongst others. All of their 330ml bottles ranged from €1.99-2.19. Beer from the macros like Moretti and Peroni were roughly half that price for same volume. In Ireland you're looking at 2.75 for a 330ml can of Ninth Wave as an example which is about the same ABV(give or take 1%) as most of the craft beers I tried in Italy. The tax on alcohol is 22%(compared to 23% here) so that doesn't really explain it.

    You would often hear in Ireland that craft beer is so expensive due to economies of scale and other costs like hops and malt. Surely they arent that much cheaper in Italy? Having said all that out of the many craft beers i tried none were big hoppy hazy IPA/NEIPAs or high ABV stouts like you'd mostly get here. They were mostly pilsners, wits and blond ales with the odd malty IPA thrown in.



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    #3445
    breezy1985
    Registered Users Posts: 25,942 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120883828#Comment_120883828

    Would they have very generous tax breaks for micro breweries maybe.

    Also it could be all the other costs being cheaper. A brewery or the final seller might need to hit a much lower GP to turn a profit.



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    #3446
    BeerNut
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,864 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Beer costs different in different countries. That's just a thing. Are Italian industrial beers also cheaper than they are in Ireland? That might might explain why their small batch competitors are cheaper too.

    My beer blog | The Twitter | My other beer blog



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    #3447
    youcancallmeal
    Registered Users Posts: 8,019 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120884533#Comment_120884533

    True, this whole EU common market sometimes confuses me. I just feel like if you factored in the cost of the raw materials then it should be roughly the same if White Hag for example brewed Ninth Wave in Spain, Germany, Belgium, Italy etc. I guess Ireland is an island and there are many other factors to consider



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    #3448
    breezy1985
    Registered Users Posts: 25,942 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120884950#Comment_120884950

    Electricity doesn't cost the same. Rates, insurance, wages, shipping all higher here.

    (Maybe not rates. I don't have a clue the difference there)



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    #3449
    youcancallmeal
    Registered Users Posts: 8,019 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    One of the receipts if anyone's interested. Like I said mostly local craft except the Brewdog(and weetabix which I was under orders to buy😅)

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    #3450
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 16,988 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120883828#Comment_120883828

    22/23% is just the VAT.

    Beer also attracts duty. The duty in Ireland is a little more than 3 times that of Italy.

    Both countries have a 50% duty reduction for micros.



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    #3451
    Citizen Six
    Registered Users Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭Citizen Six


    Anyone gets tickets for Hagstravaganza on the 12th? I've decided to just go down and back to Dublin by the train on the same day. I also noticed they have a special train on, leaving Ballymote for Sligo at 21.30.



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