Kilkenny GAA Thread

The throwing of the ball is ridiculous at this stage.

Also we missed the impact of Wally coming on as an impact sub.

I was looking at the game and saying u cant hand pass that quick. Wally should never have started. But that LImk team is so fit.

There's some stats on why we didn't win.

Looking in, the Kilkenny subs took from the team's performance whereas the Limerick subs added to there's.

Probably 5 or 6 points there alone.

And also Fogarty being a very very poor hurler does not help. Limerick to powerful from 5-12

Before all the shysters arrive here can I say well done Limerick, they blew Kilkenny out of the water in the second half. Kilkenny need new players badly, to bring on Killian, Richie and Padraig to change the game doesn't work and Kenny is too light and afraid of getting a slap the ones that should stand up don't, Billy, mossy, John etc. Great effort from all involved but sadly just not good enough. Roll on next year 👍

Game probably swayed to limerick before half time, kk should have been 5 - 6 up but limerick took it to 3. It didnt matter but limerick just physically destroyed kk for the next 40 mins and outhurled them. Credit to kk, they are always there though, prob a few legends bowing out today.

You pick ONE player to comment on when at least 6/7 were very poor, very inaccurate. nothing new really

To be fair that's a poor comment. Not sure if it's being sarcastic but fogarty has been an unbelievable servant to the county for many years and is a super hurler. Yes, his inter county career is shortening but poor to be talking about one of our own like that. He was put in a position wing back that didn't suit his game. Full stop.

Our backs hurled as well as they could have. It was from 8-12 where it was lost. Losing blanchfield, Carey and browne took its toll but the main problem was midfield and half forwards. Too many poor performances here but lyng will see that. Fair play to Limerick. A serious outfit that can truly be compared to our best teams but we will rock on again next year and with the hopeful additions of the 3 above along with much needed competition in the forwards we will be a better force.

The likes of last year's u20 forwards will improve and challenge for positions next year.

Very disappointing second half. Thought the referee was very poor, 7/8 obvious calls went against or weren't pulled with Limerick scoring almost immediately after each.

Beside that quibble, Limerick were much the better team in second half. They withdrew their half forward line, so even if the half backline didn't win primary possession their midfield/half forward line mopped up and couple of short passes/handpasses set up their scores. Midfield and Half Forward lines were overwhelmed, should've gone short on puckouts working through the lines with better ball into forwards from halfbacks rather than full back line. Guessing our fitness and conditioning weren't there to do that though.

We created a good few half goal chances, had we taken one or two the last 10 minutes would've been interesting. Hard to know where we stand after that, wouldn't be optimistic that we'll be back again next year. The bunch of u20s will have to improve a good bit for us to challenge next year.

Scandalous comment on Fogarty and not your first. You wouldn't lace his boots and not in terms of hurling but in terms of being a human. Sub standard.

Limerick awesome in that second half. Kk did lose their way but were lunch drunk. Great effort but lacking the class that limerick had. They took the hits and were still hurling. The two point swing on the 65 with 10 mins to go was the beginning of the end.

Ref was very good I felt.

Kk still best of the rest and would have out worked any other team in the country today.

At least 3 of our starting forwards wouldn’t make the worst Kilkenny team in my lifetime that won an AI (probably 1979). And that finished us. Once Limerick realised there was an almost non-existent scoring threat from those 3 forwards, they just soared in confidence, our half forward line was obliterated, and we got steamrolled.

The Limerick scores were sensational, but they came from a team that realised Kilkenny had shot their bolt. Even though it only drew them back level the 5 points after Deegan goal finished the match. I felt our last chance went when Phelan slipped and blew a golden pass from TJ.

The big reshuffle pre match meant our hoped-for sub impact got greatly reduced. Two the big three (Hogan, Walsh and Walter) were already on by 35th min, when we needed them around the 50th min and later.

Murphy didn’t have to even deal with block let alone a shot all day. That tells you our backs stood up.

No shame though, we are the 2nd best team in the country and Lyng must be given a lot of credit for getting us there.

Blanchfield and Carey will really help in 2024, Drennan and Dunne should come good to replace at least two or three of the forwards who simply aren’t top class. I think there is a very good chance we will be back in AI next year, a much stronger 15 than today. Good enough to beat Limerick? Maybe not, but def stronger.

Just like Tipp 2009, we must keep believing and improving.

Footnote

Well done Paddy Deegan, I really feared for him today, but he stood up big time, heart of a lion.

Footnote 2.

Keenan had an ok game but for the 2nd year in a row, a ref just didn't have the balls to stamp out throwing, Too scared to "spoil" the spectacle. Limerick are an all time great time but the throwing is simply atrocious.

He lost control of the ball at one point late in the 1st half and I just got a feeling then that he might have taken a knock, or was winded.

He owes none of us a damn thing though, and singling him out for low insult as he has been above, is absolutely just not on.

Despite the result, and the second half, I think we can reasonably expect to have a big say again next year. The problem being, I don't think we have reason to expect a different outcome. Something for the long-term, ie root and branch change, is required urgently I think, rather than twiddling with tactics and formations.

Other than than, thanks and gratitude to the stalwarts who might now decide take a bow. Like CF, they owe us absolutely nothing.

in my opinion thats what it should haye been all year this year , maybe not so much cork but clare were favorites amd somehow strong favorites despite losing heavy last year , i thnk 13/2 is generous on kilkenny