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Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,281 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    The train set piece seemed very reminiscent ofanother movie. I think it was Wanted 2008 a movie with Angelina Jolie but could have been something else. Really bugging me. Otherwise a good if not average movie in the mi franchise



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Jurassic Park: The Lost World? There was a near identical sequence with a trailer hanging off a cliff, the characters trying to climb as shít fell down on top of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,281 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,469 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    I loved it.

    Each of the set pieces was brilliantly done but I did half expect do torretto to turn up at some point!

    One thing that got me though.... Didn't they have senate hearings in rogue nation? Isn't the intelligence community well aware if Imf? Director of intelligence had no clue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    I caught part of it recently. The bridge attack is a great sequence, I didn’t notice too much shakey cam.



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    Dead Reckoning. Is the Emperor wearing no clothes?

    SPOILER WARNING 

    I dont know where the spoiler tags are on Boards.ie - please enlighten me.

    SPOILER WARNING

    6 outa 10

    Its bloated and padded like The Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions from 20 years ago and they share some thematic similarities as well in theme ironically. Not to mention making you pay twice to see it.

    Its generic and we’ve seen it all before unfortunately. This cant be helped with the massive budget. Its all safe and low hanging fruit to appeal to the masses. The emperor is wearing no clothes here in my opinion like Succession which ran a season too long.

    The opening sequence was an encapsulation or the borrowing of a 3rd act sequence from The Hunt for Red October in 1990 sans AI.

    The Rome car chase was borrowed from the red mini chase in The Bourne Identity 2002 and the motor cycle chase in Tomorrow Never Dies 1997 where they are hand cuffed together.

    Too many characters and a poor villain which is a cinematic crime. Too many characters leads to extra screen time and a dilution of time spent on the characters we are meant to get to know and root for.

    Exposition is too much and boring. Boring is a cinematic crime. The exposition should be more visually communicated and simple like an asteroid.

    Some of the camera work isn’t great or the editing. The dutch angles and low camera angles are grating and take you out of the story as its noticeable. The camera angles draw attention to themselves and take you out of the story momentarily. Just shoot it straight. Mount the film simply and the audience won’t even know there is a camera there. Just because you can move a camera doesn't mean you should. Its clear to me from a filmmaking point of view that Covid had a massive impact on the craft of film production thus the editing and writing but this not an excuse; get on with it.

    Most importantly of all I don’t care for anyone in the film. The violence is Marvel movie-esque - no real world consequences compared to a Bourne movie for comparison. There are loads of ways to communicate violence thru sound effects and editing. Cinema is the power of suggestion after all. 3 yellow barrels says hold my beer Ethan Hunt.

    They needed to kill off a major character at the end of act one like The Bourne Supremacy 2004 to give great emotional weight and momentum to the subplot. The emotional rails on which the story train runs on.

    Venice knife fights were poor in execution. This is really one 3 hour movie padded out to 4.5/5 hours. Like the Matrix Sequels.

    The intercutting of the knife fights with the alleyway fight was a clear covid handicap in my opinion. Thats was not what was intended.

    Grace getting away all the time becomes tiresome and I didn’t care your her use of the word "pervert" to turn the crowd of men against Ethan in Rome. That undermines real victims and shows how common and acceptable it is to use dis or mis information to achieve your goals in our gender/cultural wars of 2023. I’d would have dropped that altogether in a family movie. Women accusing men of something they didn’t do and everyone beLIEving them without proof is a subject for an entire film not a throw away scene in a blockbuster popcorn action movie.

    The motor cycle jump was over used in MSM to bludgeon us into submission of this mission. Used far too much and under whelming in the final product.

    Regardless the Mission series are vastly superior to Craig’s 5 meandering woke Bonds hands down and I’d argue that those films created a hunger or void which MI satiated and became wildly successful in. Thank you mr. Bond.

    Luther is one of those likeable characters in the franchise - old wise mother.

    Mission Impossible: The Fate of Glass (is to brake) is a better title.

    The last 44 minutes…

    Indy had a train sequence and so does this - Indy motor cycle so has this.

    Like the euro tunnel sequence in 1996 and de palma's original its all to convoluted and too populated.

    Jumping forward and back in editing is also jarring and interferes with narrative momentum which should only move forward and accelerate.

    “You made the right choice?” - Matrix (the key is delivered on the train.)

    EHunt train entrance was up there with Jack Sparrow in the original.

    Generic train roof fight. Ducking under fixed structures. Nothing new.

    Same as Indy 5 train tunnel duck. At least do a Speed 1994 on it please?

    Fast & furious now at the end like the Dam exploding but its a bridge for the train? Are these films made in a factory?

    Pick pocket trope is a total bore and scutter for such super villains. This is generic entertainment for the masses.

    Its just a rollercoaster ride. Forgetable fluff. Candy floss.

    The last 10 minutes top stuff - The Italian job on cocaine.

    This is my opinion only. Thanks for reading.



  • Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭pjcb


    also, his run was very smooth compared to the rock texture.



  • Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭Apothic_Red


    The big motor cycle jump scene baffled me. We'd all seen the videos with the ramp setup & Cruise doing jump after jump. The finished film had a rocky CGI overlay on the ramp that took you straight out of the scene. This made the whole sequence look like green screen which totally defeated the live action element. The Making Of was more impressive than what we ended up with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,276 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Watched it Saturday, they should have kept quiet about the jump, having seen it so much in the marketing really dropped it's impact.

    I felt a large part of my enjoyment of the first half of the movie was the fact I've been in both Rome and Venice this year so was able to play "spot the places I've been" in those scenes.

    Enjoyable popcorn fluff but thoroughly enjoyable.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭Mrs Shuttleworth


    I've watched all of them in the last ten days and the first for me still is the standout. De Palma brought style, class and humour that the rest just don't quite reach but I still enjoyed. Except for M:I2 of course which is diabolical.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    It wasn't just the cycle jump where the brushing out of wires kinda undermined the stunt: that train crashing off the cliff was a real stunt as well! But same problem with the CGI accentuation kinda undercutting the physicality of a real locomotive plummeting off a height...




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,837 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    On the whole, I really enjoyed it. Don't know if the middle lagged a bit or I was just pissed off at the parents who brought small children to the showing I went to with their luminescent shoes and crying but on the whole, this was quite good. I don't overly like Tom Cruise but the man always gives it his all so I can't fault him for that. It's a solid romp and the rest are all on Paramount+ so I must check those out as well.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,729 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Maybe in minority here by what a load of over-acted pretentious nonsense. Some a the scenes and dialogue were just absurdly exaggerated. Weird. Remove the action scenes and it was really poor.

    And the acting was so ham!! All so scripted with their sentences and interjections. Really felt so stiff and forced.

    it was so far-removed from some of the earlier films. Cruise is just very unconvincing. Lacked any sort stage presence.

    and wtf was the story with the key? Supposedly the most important thing in the universe and every 5 mins they were losing the fooking thing..

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,557 ✭✭✭✭Electric Nitwit


    For anyone without Paramount+ they're all in the Channel 4 app at the moment as well. You have to put up with adverts, but it's free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,697 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I enjoyed it, but I didn't think it was as good as either of Rouge Nation or Fallout.

    I know nuance and shades of light and dark are not really the series' thing post MI:3 - everything resembling a plot is essentially just a means to string a pile of set-pieces together. Which I've generally been okay with, but I thought this entry was dumber and broader than what has come before and some of the exposition and dialogue was downright cheesy. The scene where the idea of the "entity" is spelled out in block capitals to Cary Elwes, had me wincing with how naff it was. The plot is an incomprehensible mess.

    But, yes, I know, it's not really about that, so that criticism only goes so far. But as a "turn your brain" off blockbuster I don't think it reached the heights of previous editions. Now, those are really high standards, but the action felt a bit less inspired, a bit more tired and definitely less physically real than its most recent predecessors.

    I did enjoy it - it's still a superior class of action blockbuster - and would still reccomend it, but I am surprised people are so effusive about it.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,837 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I'd no idea C4 was available in Ireland. Good shout!

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,557 ✭✭✭✭Electric Nitwit


    Yeah, works as is, no VPN needed. Adverts, of course, but they're no worse than rte player 😋



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,862 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    It's a shame Rebecca Ferguson's Ilsa Faust was killed off



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Well it was brought up earlier:

    Is she? The AI was quite arrogant about Hunt having to choose one of the women, and it'd stand to reason that in a series about fake outs and espionage, Ilsa wasn't dead and they faked it to fool the Entity into thinking everyone was on the path it wanted. Hunt knowing if Ilsa "died" they could control the entity's narrative from there.

    Side bar but if people haven't, check out Apple's series "Silo"; Rebecca Ferguson stars in it and she's phenomenal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,154 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    On this subject;

    I've been trying to remember the journey of the two knives that Grace gets - I remember the camera making a point of seeing where they come from, before she snatches them up and pulls a runner. I remember in that moment, something about the knives tickled my brain, but for the life of me I can't remember what! Then she uses them with Gabriel, before he uses one to kill Ilsa. If there's to be a fake-out here, I'm wondering if that plays a part, introducing the only weapons to that clash between Gabriel and Grace, with Grace walking into it instead of running away. That bit of behaviour never made sense from a character who (reasonably enough) runs away from every dangerous situation - unless it was to make sure he got his hands on these dummy weapons. From that point, he would either 'kill' Grace with them, or allow Ilsa to turn up right behind to fake her own death - either way, completing the Entity's prediction, and giving Hunt et al the edge. Possible, or looking waaaay too into things? (I also just don't want to her to be gone...)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Full_Circle_81


    Yep I'm surprised that a lot of people don't seem to rate the first one. I've watched it a billion times and think it still holds up. De Palmas style/direction is so unique and even if a few of the effects look kind of ropey now, the set pieces themselves are very well done (the Langley heist being an all-timer stone cold classic!).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,276 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Sadly the option to pay to go ad-free isn't available without a credit card linked to a UK address. Myself and Mrs Sleepy watch a lot of All4 and wanted to subscribe but couldn't!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 651 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    I watched the film yesterday and I can’t understand the hype around it. It’s pretty entertaining and the action scenes are well done but the storyline is so abysmally stupid I found myself frequently laughing to myself at how preposterous it was. I don’t expect a strong plot from a 100 minute B-movie, but this was 2hr 45 mins long with a lot of talk about “The Entity” and that stupid key, so I think viewers were entitled to expect something better. Plus I found Cruise’s overacting very annoying at times and Simon Pegg continues to be miscast. On the upside, the scene at the end on the train was well done. But overall, it was 3/5, no more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,729 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Mission Impossible 1996 is a great film. Leagues ahead of this one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,729 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Another thing: Cruise needs to give up the action man nonsense. He looks ridiculous. Has a massive ego. I watched Impossibe Missions the other night. Hour long doc about the mission impossible movies.

    Tom, Simon and Hayley. It’s Simon and Hayley telling Tom how great he is for the whole hour and him grinning like a Cheshire Cat lapping it up. Cringe.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Have you seen any of the others? Cos part of the appeal of these films has been precisely that action-man schtick, with Fallout the zenith for real world, insane stunts.

    Honestly I can't stand Cruise as a person at all, but I respect and admire the man's desire to restart the simple of concept of Blockbusters containing proper daredevil stunts and visceral action; between these films and Top Gun: Maverick, he fronts up as an action lead. He and Keanu leading the way among a sea of fakery.

    Having tried to watch The Flash and its awful, awful CGI I appreciate Cruise's mania all the more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,969 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    On Ilsa.

    They did the fake out on her death in the desert at the start of the movie would they do it a second time on the bridge?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    I dunno, I think Cruise always seems very self-aware in interviews and seems up for a laugh. Other actors and directors generally seem super eager to work with him / for him which must count for something? Obviously people will want to work on a guaranteed blockbuster Cruise project to boost their own profiles but if he had a reputation for being difficult/ego-centric/an A-hole, the people queuing up to work with him would very quickly diminish.

    This is years old, it dates back to the appalling MI:2 but I think it shows he is very self aware and more than willing to send himself up…




  • Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭RunningFlyer


    Thinking of going to see this next week… do you need to have seen the other recent MIs to understand the plot more or is it ok to go to watch as a stand-alone?

    Ive seen Ghost Protocol I think on TV before but wasn’t paying too much attention to the plot, just enjoyed the action scenes!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,729 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Not at all saying he’s an A-hole. I think he comes across sound. Very genuine guy, albeit very intense. I just think he has really regressed as an actor.

    I used to love Cruise in films. He was extraordinary in some roles. These action roles he’s been playing years are stale in my view.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    There are some references back to all of the previous films yes, barring MI:2 I’d say!. Right back to the first one in fact, as a major character from the original movie reappears in this one.

    That said, the plot isn’t too taxing and I don’t think you need to sit through all of them.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    I got paramount plus on the cheap last week and rewatched MI 1 & 2. 1 still holds up today and 2 made me audibly laugh out loud at all the slow mo scenes in it. It looks and feels like a bad 2000 music video.

    Dead reckoning was grand set pieces and action sequences looked great.

    The Entity name was beyond annoying if they said it once the said it a million times. The two agents assigned to track hunt down should be handed their p45s. And the villain had absolutely no menacing aura about him at all.

    Just looked smug and smary over evil and threatening.

    Paris had a better showing than Gabriel. Absolutely ruthless when needed to be.

    Id give it a 6/10. Grand way to pass a night away. Will still go see part two but don’t think this will be one to rewatch again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,208 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Saw this last night and enjoyed it. That said, I am in the camp of that the first mission impossible is the best. That's a film while the rest are movies - if that makes sense.

    If you go in accepting what it is then you will enjoy yourself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭Decuc500


    I loved the first half of it. There were a couple of great set pieces. But when it got to Venice it lost me a bit, especially with the fate of that one character.

    The second half was a bit flabby and I was never exactly sure who had the key at any one time.

    Of course the final set piece was spectacular but we've seen Tom Cruise driving off that cliff so many times it lost a bit of the magic actually seeing it in the film.

    I'd like to see Christopher McQuarrie going back to do a smaller film like The Way of the Gun.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    It was OK. Definitely the weakest of the series. One of the opening scenes in the debrief room where ...everyone got .... Chance to speak... And say a ... Few words that .... Kept... the sentence going ... but just looked ... .... (oh wait it's my line) ...and sounded Ridiculous.



    The amount of literal head nods between Atwell and Cruise in front of everyone was so camp and twee. Adding a character that was so green into a plot that was trying to convey this was the greatest threat ever didn't really fit in well.


    Also, he's some man for [spoiler] bumping a love interest out of the way for a new one [/spoiler] it was like an old Bond movie.

    The train crash looked good ... in parts and awful in others. The last minute saves were just laughable.


    The villain was actually quite cool I thought and had a lingering physical threat but they let it all done with the "Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnn" moment.

    5/10.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    I am also a little puzzled by the CGI distracting from physical stunts that Cruise does. In Fallout, I initially didn't know he actually did the HALO jump because he was surrounded by a CG lightning storm. I get you can't have Cruise jumping into an actual storm but how about amending the script to properly showcase the realistic stunts. The plane hanging shot from Rogue Nation and the Burj Khalifa climbing scene from Ghost Protocol worked best because there was minimal noticeable CGI (I'm guessing it mostly involved removing safety harnesses).

    The problem I have with the CGI overlay on the ramp in Dead Reckoning is that it seemed too rocky for the speed the bike was at. I think it needed to be more grassy. Actually doing some set dressing on the ramp itself might have helped too rather than fully relying on CGI assuming it would have been safe to do so.

    But I still admire the huge amount of preparation Cruise and the team did to pull it off.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I suppose set dressing would have necessitated an even larger crew halfway up the mountain - between the dressers & the materials themselves - and set dressing requires continuity maintenance between takes as well (there were 6 apparently?); so I guess the hope and belief was that the post-production CGI would be good enough to look convincing. IIRC the shoot was during CoVid as well, right? Perhaps that also factored into things, where the production could only have X number of crew behind the camera for the entire stunt.

    Agree otherwise; Rogue Nation and Protocol's stunts have aged much better precisely because they had much less CGI in them (bar the sandstorm from Protocol that was off in the distance); and even in Fallout the later stunts with the helicopter chase & foot-chase through London left more of a mark because they involved minimal CGI.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,946 ✭✭✭✭ShaneU


    Some of the scenes were ridiculous like the debrief at the start with everyone finishing each others sentences but the meeting at the night club was the worst....

    "The AI told me I will get the key on a train tomorrow but only after one of Ethan Hunt's friends DIEEE!!! LMAO I thought I was watching a parody, so ridiculous! And then only one of the White Witch's bodyguard's carries a gun of course! Some serious suspension of disbelief required for these movies, felt the exact same watching John Wick 4.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,806 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I loved that early debrief sequence. It was such a heightened, immensely watchable scene - leaning into the artificiality and genre tropes while filming it all with real verve and energy. Is it preposterous? Of course, but it's fundamentally a preposterous series, so it's great to see McQuarrie and the cast having a lot of fun in how they stage what could be rote, bog-standard scenes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    I don't go to MI films for the realism of its plotting. McQuarrie has said they start the writing with a number of action set pieces they want to do and then base a plot around them. That's fine with me for the type of films they are. They aren't trying to be Le Carre.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,154 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    It irritated the bejesus out of me... I want to suspend my disbelief... I'm trying real hard to suspend my disbelief - why make it so difficult on such a simple scene? Like, even in a preposterous movie, you still have to have rules to ground it so at least something can matter and have stakes. But they did that "one-line-many-voices" thing instead of actual conversation a whole bunch of times throughout the film, and it just turns characters into sock puppets unnecessarily. Just seems a particularly lazy way to lash out all your exposition over and over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    I love the first one but for me the 2011 on era is superior, the second one is poor but the third one with Philip Seymour Hoffman is the dud of the series



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    I can never understand this take that M:I 3 is a dud. Hoffman is excellent and the Vatican heist is one of the best in the series. Also, unlike Ghost Protocol which peaks during the Dubai scenes and the subsequent Indian sequence is a bit lacking, the third act of M:I 3 keeps the tension to the end.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,281 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    MI 3 relied heavily on the fake face mask that was already getting old and looked a bit cheap like an a slightly more expensive episode of Alias. I did enjoy the Vatican scenes so it is better than mi 2



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    I love Philip Seymour Hoffman, I just hate MI3



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,697 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I hated that scene. I've seen people here and elsewhere defend it as being self aware or intentionally a send up of heavy handed exposition scenes, but I think that's a very charitable interpretation. It just felt like a genuinely bone dumb exposition scene.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I dunno, I kinda loved that briefing scene: it had a bit of flourish and obvious affectation - but the whole series always skirted around the reality of this universe's existing ludicrous energy; secret super spies who make rubber masks to perfectly copy other people?

    Anyway, only thing that truly distracted was Mark Gatiss trying to do a thick American accent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,154 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    I think all filmmaking/writing decisions come down to "what does it get you, what does it cost you?". Here it gets you a stylized way of getting out otherwise-bland exposition. But it costs you anyone in the room feeling like an actual human being, rather than just 6+ mouthpieces for the writer's words. For me, that cost was too big - there's enough stylization in the actual stunts and plot, without sacrificing your characters as well. You need something to be grounded so you can care at least a bit.

    If they did it in that scene only, I could forgive it, but almost every group 'conversation' worked like this, where the string of dialogue could've been spoken by any of the characters present.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    I have only seen the first two in cinemas. Something has always got in the way of me seeing the rest on the big screen but I’m seeing this tomorrow - been looking forward to it for a while but even more now as I have just watched FALLOUT for the first time.

    And as to FALLOUT… **** hell. I’ve considered many a film as “non-stop action” before but clearly I didn’t know what non-stop action means. I do now.

    And it was all great stuff.

    And good to see Ving Rhames getting more screen time.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    Saw this today in a cinema , i love the series and liked this but somewhat less than the three previous entries I think ( they could have referred to “ the entity”about half as much as they did and the audience would have gotten it , the threat of AI)

    I could see Rebecca Ferguson making her last appearance, her role seemed smaller from the get go, loved all of the new characters, Grace , Gabriel ( who was almost supernatural like ) and the Asian baddie ( well until she redeemed herself)

    the Grace character is very relatable, I loved Elsa but she was ultra efficient and professional, very different, it’s a series with great female characters

    7 out of 10



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