F1 2023 thread

That sounds like a good idea, except it would need to apply to both championships. The driver's championship carries more prestige than the constructor's, so they'd need to avoid the possibility of a team sacrificing one for the other.

That is the only reasons the hypercars exist and to be honest, I don't see how that can be policed to standard that would hold up in law.

You are aware Red Bull were hit with a pretty draconian sporting penalty last year and not just a fine? They have heavily limited wind tunnel access because of it which is hurting their development progress and will certainly have a big impact on next year's car.

It's hard for the penalties to be clear cut really as each case is different - you have cases like Red Bull last year where the FIA admitted that the team acted entirely in good faith, they gained no performance advantage, and were simply victims to a different interpretation of some vaguely written rules which everyone now knows about for this year, or you may have cases where teams have genuinely broken budget to gain an unfair advantage, through using road car programs as a trojan horse or whatever.

The podium in Australia for McLaren was up there for his Motorsport achievements. I think it was McLaren's last podium before there was a big gap when they switched to Honda engines.

Well done, that was totally necessary and no one could have understood what was ment without that correction 🙄

Aston Martin breaching in twice in two years will hardly be looked favourably upon.

Depends if they breached about the same as redbull did then the same penalty, if they are massively over then meh give them the same as red bull seen as it did nothing to them anyway so the penalties are meaningless. They will just do a better job of hiding overspends in future and not go full board catering which caught red bull out.

In all seriousness any repeat offenders instant DQ driver and constructor championships make an example now or just give up the cost cap. new offenders need like a % discount of points based on the overspend amount

Which means a team(s) most definitely breached the cost cap!

And no one picked up on this but the CEO Laurent Rossi was sacked.

This McLaren v Alpine thing last year was turned into a Zac Brown v Otmar Szafnauer rivalry by Drive to Survive despite the fact that the two men have completely different roles within their teams, Otmars direct opposite was Andreas Sidil, now Andrea Stella while Zac would be up at what was Laurent Rossi's position. But Netflix just thought "Hey, American vs American" which coloured a lot of peoples opinion of Zac.

Netflix lies to build up drama.

Wonder if McLaren can catch Ferrari or Aston in the constructors? They look quite ahead on pace but Perez will probably take more podiums now if he drives well, so more difficult for McLaren to beat Perez and two Mercedes to score big points every race.

In fairness, despite their different job titles, they both tend to act as the face of the team when speaking to any media, not just on Netflix. In post race interviews and the like it will always be Otmar speaking for Alpine and it will be Zak speaking for McLaren 90% of the time. The teams have different structures and everything isn't a 1-1 mapping.

The reason Szafnauer gave for leaving Aston Martin and joining Alpine was that Stroll interfered too much and he felt he was no longer running the team, while Alpine gave him more control as Rossi was CEO of Alpine in its entirety and was primarily concerned with the road car division, which would give Otmar free reign over the F1 team.

I'm not sure that proved to actually be true as you'd hear a lot about discord around Rossi's interference (I believe Prost left for that reason previously) - what is true though is that Rossi was CEO of the Alpine car company and F1 was not his primary responsibility, while Zak Brown is specifically CEO of McLaren Racing and not their road car operation, he is ever present on the pitwall and he is clearly very hands on in how the team is run, albeit with a Team Principal also sitting under him. It might be a culture that stems back to the old days of Ron Dennis being both CEO and TP.

Croft as well was on a roll. I get that there will always be bias towards the Brits in the sport, this doesn’t really fall into that though.