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Decline of the Farmers Journal

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    #122
    ftm2023
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭ftm2023


    IFJ is in serious decline and is a half dead excuse for journalism. End of. No need to be attacking posters for their opinions. You know you’ve lost a debate when you begin making personal attacks because you can’t back any of your own claims up.



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    #123
    roosterman71
    Registered Users Posts: 5,590 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    Already gave my opinion on this thread

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120876017#Comment_120876017


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120881828#Comment_120881828

    This is a grudge. And then 2 newly registered posters pop up and both pile onto the IFJ isn't a good luck, and really points to a grudge being held.

    No one says it's a top quality production. Most in here call it "the comic". That says a lot. It's pages now of how shite the paper is. Don't buy the fuckin thing. @Kerry2021 said there yer a paying customer and yet can't stand the thing. To use your movie analogy, don't go watch the movie again.



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    #124
    Kerry2021
    Registered Users Posts: 224 ✭✭Kerry2021


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120893314#Comment_120893314

    Very well said. I’d be willing to put any sort of bet on with any of ye that the IFJ will never cover the topic of “participation exemption” that I mentioned earlier in the thread. They’ll be too busy writing articles about fancy gates



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    #125
    roosterman71
    Registered Users Posts: 5,590 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120893349#Comment_120893349

    Is any publication covering it?



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    #126
    ftm2023
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭ftm2023


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120893343#Comment_120893343

    how long do you think a person should have their account registered for before they’re allowed join a discussion? And sorry, have you not read the previous pages? How is it just two people? Most people agreed and clearly stated is a poor paper with an agenda.



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    #127
    roosterman71
    Registered Users Posts: 5,590 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    I know. I read the thread. I was one of the first to engage with the OP here. Most people agreed it's not great, but most people aren't going on and an about how shite it is, how it's rubbish, how it won't talk about something, blah blah blah. The real kick in the balls came when @wrangler was rounded on, even making little of him for having a different opinion

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120893067#Comment_120893067

    And this is just being a prick towards him. No need for it



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    #128
    Kerry2021
    Registered Users Posts: 224 ✭✭Kerry2021


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120893380#Comment_120893380

    It’s something called “news” as in it is new news. So no they haven’t. My account is set up with years, it’s literally lies to label me a new poster and I reported your comment where you used explicit language at me. I’ve explained time and time again it’s nothing personal against the IFJ. They’re lovely people, particularly the editor himself but the paper is gone very badly downhill in my honest opinion as a paying customer and it’s a free country, it’s my right to express my opinion in a respectful manner which is what I’m doing



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    #129
    Waffletraktor
    Registered Users Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Waffletraktor


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120893401#Comment_120893401

    The fanboy/girl’ing parroting is a bit tiresome.



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    #130
    Kerry2021
    Registered Users Posts: 224 ✭✭Kerry2021


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120893460#Comment_120893460

    very intelligent bit of wisdom there as regards your opinion on the IFJ



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    #131
    ftm2023
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭ftm2023


    The moderators might as well close the thread. Few posters such as rooster man making up lies and personal insults about people. Waffletraktor seemingly questioning people’s sexuality. All very inappropriate.



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    #132
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users Posts: 18,656 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120893512#Comment_120893512

    TBH you are trolling at this stage and that is from a poster that has serious issues with the FJ. You are attacking poster not debating posts

    Ya the tags days are numbered. It will continue trundling along for another while. At present it dose very well out of advertisement's. However at some stage that cherry will burst. It will then start to burn cash reserves similar to the IFA 3-5 years ago. It's depending on its brand to survive.

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120893017#Comment_120893017

    I think it can do nothing about a lot of those issues. The IFA is often too shrill. The FJ has alienated too many smaller farmers. It's constant whining about farm payments reorganization has left it stranded with dwindling sales.

    Now all it dose is publish readership figures which I expect are skewed to hide a drop in printed sales and poor take up of online sales

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #133
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users Posts: 18,656 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120893215#Comment_120893215

    I do not agree that it should be closed but I do think lads need to actually discuss the issue not attack posters or dick swing

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #134
    roosterman71
    Registered Users Posts: 5,590 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120893512#Comment_120893512

    What lies and insults did I present?



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    #135
    farawaygrass
    Registered Users Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120893701#Comment_120893701

    dont be drawn. The least amount of responses from here on in here better



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    #136
    Jack98
    Registered Users Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Jack98


    ftm2023 and kerry2021 share a lot of the same opinions bit of a coincidence ftm2023 was set up so soon after this thread started to come on and agree with kerry2021’s points…

    One may even suspect the same person could be running both accounts…



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    #137
    cap.in.hand.
    Registered Users Posts: 761 ✭✭✭cap.in.hand.


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120893963#Comment_120893963

    That was happening in the Kerry coop thread big time as well...



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    #138
    Jack98
    Registered Users Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Jack98


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120894000#Comment_120894000

    Doesn’t surprise me would make sense, speaking in a condescending way to long time users who you’d see active in many threads and telling the world of how great you are and how much you have wouldn’t put it past such a person…very egotistical behavior.



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    #139
    Kerry2021
    Registered Users Posts: 224 ✭✭Kerry2021


    Pretty disappointing by the moderators that that on page 5 of this thread instead of the subject being discussed they’ve instead allowed me to be repeatedly attacked.

    Have had this account set up for years.

    Countless people agree with me about the IFJ on this thread (the vast vast majority to be fair) but instead of discussing the topic the thread has been destroyed by false accusations. If anyone is suspected of running 2 accounts I would advise you all to report it and I’m sure if that is happening it would be dealt with.

    As for the IFJ it has been communicated to me through the grape vine that they’d now be willing to print something on participation exemption after all (with some editing) but after reading the general consensus everyone else has of the paper on this thread it’s not something I am interested in following up.

    I’m the only one of you all who has said who I actually am, the rest of ye are hiding behind anonymous accounts. If anyone still has a problem with me I would be perfectly happy to send a private message of my phone number for any of you to contact me on WhatsApp. Don’t think you can ask for any fairer than that.

    Bizarre take that a lot of people have on someone starting to take an active role on boards, Jack98 seems to even think I’m a narcissist for not liking the direction the IFJ has gone in recent years



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    #140
    farmertipp
    Registered Users Posts: 676 ✭✭✭farmertipp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120894322#Comment_120894322

    farmer's journal motto was "fearlessly on the farmers side" a good way to prove that is to investigate and rebuff some of the climate lies being levelled at farming in recent times. I'd hate to see it go down personally. I think it's still got great potential



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    #141
    MIKEKC
    Registered Users Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120893067#Comment_120893067

    Can't see where Wrangler. Said he has a little sheep farm. if you are a young farmer and as sussesful as you claim you must have got a start somewhere . Very the young farmers make it big without help. Without knowing the full facts we can't agree or disagree with you. Wrangled is happy with his lot im sure ha has a good payment to show for it



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    #142
    Kerry2021
    Registered Users Posts: 224 ✭✭Kerry2021


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120894398#Comment_120894398

    Have no problem with Wrangler but almost every comment he made on this thread was directed at me, calling me sad because I don’t like the IFJ. He made no genuine attempt to debate his point of view

    Hope he’s got a payment of €100,000/year. Best of luck to him.

    As regards if I am this or that or whatever I’ve said who I am and feel free to message me and I’ll give you my phone number if you wish to ring me for any more info you want



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    #143
    ftm2023
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭ftm2023


    Lot of personal attacks made on me in this thread as a new user. As if it’s some sort of special club on here and nobody new is meant to join up here. Don’t think I’ll be commenting on anymore threads after the mistreatment I’ve gotten.

    the OP is being spoke about more than the FJ. no moderation taking place



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    #144
    MIKEKC
    Registered Users Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120894540#Comment_120894540

    Thank you for your offer.I don't want anyone personal information.I was just making the point that most young farmers inheritance starts them off. Then they get higher grants as well as young farmers scheme payments Young farmers can now get e8,500 per year for five years. This puts them in the position that they can outbid other farmers for rental land



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    #145
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Closing this one down, way too many reported posts coming from 1 thread.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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