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Nigel Farage cries persecution, nobody wants to be his banker after ties to Russia

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    #1502
    Tony EH
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120901856#Comment_120901856

    ...for the worse.



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    #1503
    Tony EH
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120900154#Comment_120900154

    They're more interested in clinging to a childish narrative than anything else. Facts and truth be damned, never mind proof.



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    #1504
    ancapailldorcha
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902105#Comment_120902105

    As always.

    I'm convinced that for the government, this is about preventing private banks from withdrawing their services no matter what. They've already banned protests and they're on the way out so it makes sense they're going to enact more authoritarian measures to ensure their continued access to privileges.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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    #1505
    Danzy
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    The people's revolt gathers pace, Farage is looking to build a campaign of solidarity around all the people who have been denied banking because of their politics, organizing in the community or workplace.



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    #1506
    Danzy
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    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/26/forget-nigel-farage-and-coutts-banks-have-been-locking-ordinary-people-out-of-accounts-for-years

    The Guardian showing why Farage's organizing is needed.


    Workers stand together or fall together.



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    #1507
    Boggles
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902134#Comment_120902134

    You think Nige gives a hoot about the "people's"? 😂

    He is going to grift this to death.



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    #1508
    Peregrinus
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902134#Comment_120902134

    Is that what he told you?

    God, you're gullible!



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    #1509
    Quin_Dub
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902134#Comment_120902134
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902161#Comment_120902161

    Those two things have absolutely nothing to do with each other though??

    Farages "crusade" is about a thing that doesn't actually happen for a start and the things talked about in the Guardian article have absolutely nothing to do with anything that Farage has talked about.

    And Farage doesn't care either - All he wants is for the PEP and Money Laundering rules to be watered down because somehow that's the problem.

    Making it easier for bribery and for drug dealers to move their cash - Yeah , that'll really help the homeless guy without a permanent address get a bank account.



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    #1510
    Tony EH
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    LOL...

    The "people".

    🤣



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    #1511
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902047#Comment_120902047

    But it's simply untrue.

    Take a look at Sky News Top Stories.

    Screenshot_20230727_092621_Sky News.jpg
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    There are currently thirty top news stories on the app.

    Farage isn't mentioned once.

    Climate and European heatwave is the top story and a live rolling latest news slot in fourth.

    Ian Dunt is making things up. In fact, maybe Dunt is the one obsessed with Farage.



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    #1512
    brickster69
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    Seen as Natwest felt comfortable enough to offer an account to Farage it will be interesting to see what reasons these 10 other banks who refused him disclose. They can't really use a mortgage or being on Putin's payroll as an excuse for turning him down.

    It would not be a surprise if Coutts fired off it's report to all the other banks as well given what's come out already. Tip of iceburg considering all those reports should be coming back in the next fortnight and now they have a big platform all set up to release everything.

    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



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    #1513
    Shoog
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902268#Comment_120902268

    .. private millionaire's banks can choose who they give their custom to. Why is that so hard to grasp.

    All rich banks can decide that Farage is unsavoury and there is not a damn thing he can do about it.

    Meanwhile will he be had for insider trading ?



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    #1514
    Potatoeman
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902047#Comment_120902047

    You didn’t hear much about the Ethiopian war that left an estimated 1.4 million dead because it happened during the Ukrainian conflict. I bet you didn’t see many Ethiopian flags on Twitter either as it was not the cause de-jour. It’s funny how people make these realisations when the story doesn’t suit their own narrative. However a CEO leaking a false story to the press about a client for what seem to be ideological reasons is newsworthy.



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    #1515
    ancapailldorcha
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902355#Comment_120902355

    We don't hear about it because the racist, rightist press can't sell itself on it. I've no idea what this has to do with Nigel Farage.

    He's a grifter who's lost his post twat privileges with a posh bank. It doesn't deserve anywhere near this amount of time. Your cynical whataboutery argument does not change this.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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    #1516
    Quin_Dub
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902268#Comment_120902268

    Do you think that Farage went to his local bank branch and asked for a regular old Current account and debit card?

    The 10 other banks turned him down for the same type of services that Coutts were giving him.

    Once again - HE WAS NOT DE-BANKED.

    He was told he no longer qualified for special VIP account status as a result of his lack of funds and his controversial public profile.



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    #1517
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902423#Comment_120902423

    The 10 other banks turned him down for the same type of services that Coutts were giving him.

    Do you have a source of evidence for this assertion?



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    #1518
    Quin_Dub
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902439#Comment_120902439

    As always , the man himself - He specifically talks about the fact that he was looking for enhanced banking services in several of his multitude of posts about this travesty of injustice meted out to a poor old regular guy like him..



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    #1519
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902462#Comment_120902462

    From what I heard from the same footage, is that Farage was seeking banking services related to his business which were denied with the offered NatWest account. I certainly haven't seen any evidence to date that Farage is seeking "the same type of services that Coutts were giving him", and second to that, that this must be the reason why the banks are rejecting him -- and not due to some other reason. That's quite a burden of proof to bear.

    So I re-ask the question, can you provide a source of evidence for this assertion?



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    #1520
    THE_SHEEP
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    Looks at thread title ....

    Reads thread ....

    Thinks " Farage hatred is real !! " ......

    Thinks " What if the shoe was on the other foot ? " ......

    Moves on with a sigh .........🙄



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    #1521
    Potatoeman
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902420#Comment_120902420

    What had the Greek wildfires you brought up got to do with this news story? Are you saying all the press is right wing?

    Again the CEO leaked a false story to the press about a client. That is news. The fact his political opinions were mentioned on the file they have on him is beyond strange, what has his position on trans rights got to do with anything or of any business of bank?



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    #1522
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902548#Comment_120902548

    It's a significant news story because it has shone a light on less prominent people, ordinary members of the public, who also had their bank account closed without a stated reason. More and more people are coming forward with the same report. There's now a NatWest account closure Facebook group with over 20,000 members.

    Richard Tice of Reform UK said he was rejected a bank account, too. I believe he even said that one of his accounts was closed. Other Brexit Party MEPs and their families have come forward to say that they had their bank accounts closed, too.

    This idea that the story is only Farage is to miss the much bigger picture. It's not about a privileged bank; it's about all banks committing the same offense against some of their clients based on their personal and political beliefs.

    It's appalling. Everyone should be against it (but some aren't, purely because of a fanatical hatred of Farage).



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    #1523
    ancapailldorcha
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902548#Comment_120902548

    My point was that some grifter doesn't deserve this much airtime while there are actual newsworthy stories being ignored. This was obvious and it was a problem before the revelations about Rose and the BBC.

    I see the deranged hatred of trans people has reared its vile head once again.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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    #1524
    Potatoeman
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902563#Comment_120902563

    I don’t think trans people should be unbanked either. It’s just a bizarre thing to note on his file.

    The real meat of this story is the CEO leaking false information about a client but it highlighted the issues with the banking sector and its new ideological drive. Which is itself unethical.



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    #1525
    Peregrinus
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902268#Comment_120902268

    My understanding is that NatWest have offered Farage a basic account, which they are required by law to provide to any UK resident unless there are money-laundering or financing of terrorism concerns. Farage has reportedly rejected this offer; presumably he wants an account which, if not quite as fully-serviced as Coutts, is something more than a basic account. (At a guess, he wants an account that will provide him with a chequebook and/or some level of credit.)

    The other banks rejected an application from Farage which, presumably, was again an application for something more than a basic account. If he had applied for a basic account it's likely that he would have got it, since all the major banks in the UK are under the same obligation to provide basic accounts to any UK resident.

    Farage can make a subject access request to the banks that have declined his application to see what data they hold on him, but because he is not a customer it's likely that they hold much less data than Coutts did. There'll be a record of his application and a record of the rejection and, possibly, a statement in extremely general terms of the reason for the rejection (which, Farage has already said, is because the banks considered that he was a PEP). I wouldn't assume there'd be any more data than that.



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    #1526
    Danzy
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    Who else will bother with this but someone like Farage.


    Labour won't touch it, it would descend in to one group of activists calling for nationalization, another group going on about hook nosed bankers, another saying what about the homeless and on and on.


    Nothing would be done, just as they like it.



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    #1527
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902571#Comment_120902571

    It's totally bizarre.

    I don't think many people understand the scale of what the dossier into Farage included.

    The 40-page dossier reflects on Farage's opinions on the following topics:

    • gay marriage
    • trans issues
    • climate change / net zero
    • controlling immigration levels
    • migrant crossings across the English channel
    • Black Lives Matter
    • gender pay gap
    • Donald Trump
    • meeting Novak Djokovic
    • his comments on a Ricky Gervais joke
    • his comments on Prince Charles
    • Brexit

    The bank didn't spend 40-pages talking about economic criteria and commercial viability. That was merely a footnote when compared to the overwhelming amount of time invested discussing his personal and political views (including incessant references to Tweets he published).

    But remember -- his "political views had nothing to do with the decision to de-bank Farage", according to some. Right.

    That banks are compiling dossiers on people's views, and then using that to form a basis upon which to de-bank anyone -- whether Farage or not -- should be a concern to most people.



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    #1528
    Peregrinus
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902560#Comment_120902560

    Where is the evidence that any of the other closures were related to the customers' "personal and political beliefs"?



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    #1529
    Peregrinus
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902632#Comment_120902632

    For the hundred and fifty-seventh time, there was no "decision to de-bank Farage".

    Your inability to talk about the this issue without persistently misrepresenting it, even after the truth has been pointed out to you many times, creates an impression which is almost certainly not the one you are aiming for . You might want to think about this.



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    #1530
    Quin_Dub
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902632#Comment_120902632

    Other than speaking publicly about the list of things above , what does Nigel Farage do to earn a living???

    A review of Nigel Farages Financial viability will by its nature contain details of the things he does to earn money.

    And he earns money by vocalising Right-wing talking points.



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    #1531
    Shoog
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120902560#Comment_120902560

    ... and none of them will be in the same boat as Farage. I would estimate that most will be because of bad credit histories and various defaults. I guarantee that none of them will be because of their politics.



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