COYGIG - Women’s Football World Cup 23 **Mod Warning in Post #58**

I'd like the womens team to get more coverage going forward.

I feel like the embarassment of a rugby team got more coverage but the football team are far better than they get credit for.

But we haven't.

There was a huge reception for the Euro 88 team that arrived at their first ever major tournament unfancied but came back with a win v England, a draw v the USSR and it was only a late Dutch goal that stopped them going to the Semi Finals.

There was a huge reception for Italia '90, first time at a world cup and getting to a quarter final.

In the Phoenix Park there was a reception for the team that lost a last 16 game in USA '94 , but that was then and now seen as an embarrassing event for all involved.

I don't know about 2002 but there certainly wasn't anything of note for 2012 or 2016.

It's awful crap to watch to be brutally honest. Like an u14 b boys division 6 game. I just can't get into it at all.

I enjoyed the Ireland matches but was disappointed that every time the got away on a break the forward player seemed to be isolated and with no support. The main tactic seemed to be to play for a 0-0 against Oz and Canada. Given the rankings and results it may have worked but unfortunately it didn't and I feel that as a result it was hard to get engaged with the team.

I genuinely think the public appetite was damaged by the Vera Pauw allegations and her claiming a man would not have been treated as badly. I would think a male coach in womens football would have had to step aside in similar circumstances.

Hopefully the team can move on and up while we still have players at the top clubs but I do agree with other posters that the team needs to be open to criticism and analysis.

On Farrelly

The Guardian rated her 5, one behind McCabe on 6

The Mirror rated her 8, one ahead of McCabe on 7

Perhaps you are being unduly harsh?

No, they are the ratings for the Aus game.

I think you may have exaggerated the lack of her use, when none of those rating the players seem to have picked up on it.

Vera seems to excite the same mixed and diverse opinion as Charlton did. She has a style of management that is similar IMO. Like Jack she can point to her success in getting us to these tournaments.

Watch the game back.

If you look at the nice touches and her examples of getting out of tight spaces was generally when she was helping out her right back. e.g. in a very tight situation she did a lovely back heel to get out etc. So yes it was clear she has a great touch. Always the right body shape. It's clear she's miles ahead of the rest of the team.

When moves were starting from the back or when we got to the middle, we always looked to the left to McCabe who then had to nearly always come back.

So if the rating is on her limited ball time I agree with them.

But you also have to take into consideration that you're bringing a player in who was not part of the qualifying squad.

Out of the game for 6/7 years.

Played for USA previously etc.

Coming into whats constantly stated as a very close nit squad. It also meant someone else doesn't go for her to get into the team.

Jack can point to a hell of a lot more than qualifying.

Trap also got us qualified. Would you want to watch that dross again ?

You are projecting I think.

Nobody has expressed discontent with the manager. Maybe in a few years we will get the whole story and then you can back up the contention.

What I see at the moment is a very committed group and great team spirit. That's down to a manager to a large degree as well.

If you are saying Jack didn't excite differing opinions on his management then I think you are totally wrong and leave it at that. Not the thread for a debate on that.

Your comparison is idiotic. Any homecoming the men received did not come after they were dumped out of the tournament after two embarrassing performances, cringeworthy or not is irrelevant, going on to win the whole thing is irrelevant, they progressed on the biggest stage. This much has already been pointed out to you already. Furthermore, you will not find a single front page headline which is similar to the one I showed you where some journo lauds that they “belong on the world stage” the same day they are unceremoniously and embarrassingly dumped out of a tournament after just two games, with an own goal to boot. You don’t even realise that you are doing the team an injustice by claiming this was some sort of success on any level, it wasn’t, it was abject failure.

What a goal by the way, beautiful flick, a deft touch you might say…. just the wrong net.

maybe you should worry about possession stats.... this is the reason we looked knackered after half time!! Canada actually worked a few decent chances and got in behind us couple of times , yet none of this was brought up by the panel at HT. some times i wonder what game people are watching.

canada had 67% possession in the first half alone. all this talk about a 'brilliant' first half..what did we do? got a lucky goal from a corner and knocked a few long balls to a lone striker. that was it. other than we were chasing shadows and covering space all first half. this is eventually gonna take its toll. you cant sit back and knock it long all game like we did. at some stage we have to try and control the game. our superstar was played at left wing back for the most part. soon as she moved in midfield the difference was night and day...same against the aussies.

o sullivan and littlejohn in midfield were awful yesterday. i thought o sullivan was meant to be one of our go to players? she was terrible. anonymous.

canada could have won that about 5 -1 and i wouldn't have begrudged them it. as i said in an earlier post, they had some nice combination play, good interchanges, players showing for the ball, players being proactive, looked properly coached. everything we didnt have.

well done to the girls for getting there but i think the conservative tactics and lack of decent footballers caught us out.

Nigeria are through on this result, yeh?

Was hoping they'd be playing us with something on the line to give us something to play for and more experience.

Not to be.