Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

That’s it in a nutshell.

I see it on the contracting side too. The most demanding lads and the lads with the biggest opinion of their own self importance are the lads that never worked a day in their lives outside their own farm.

It’s the worst thing any parent can do to their child. A half decent parent would make sure their child does something else first before coming back home. It’ll stand to them for the rest of their lives.

Agree totally what you’re saying, the guy I was talking about earlier with the father milking the cows at 74 is one of these fella’s. All about what he has and what his buying and just split from the second wife and how lucky the lads that have worked for him are, when he comes into the local pub lads drink up and go home or move to the bar,. Never worked a day outside the farm. In France all young farmers have to go to a different type of farm from the home farm and out of the country if at all possible before installation. Now every young person Should get out of country before going home to farm.

If he has paid the tax on his own money isn't it up to himself how it's spent. No one is responsible for how I pay my tax only myself

Was sent to a serious pig of a man on dairy placement was verbally abusing us on a daily basis, he had gotten in a contractor with a saw head to do ditches cutting down good 12 inch thick bows along the fences which he sent us to pull from ditches, tidy up with loader obviously the fence was destroyed from falling bows, cattle got out of a field in adjoining block, was my fault of course for "wrecking fence" was no power getting to it was a digger man their at the time and I'd seen my chance he started roaring at us for the above I walked towards him faced him down and asked him what kind of a stupid c**t he was that he even thought the fence would still be intact after your man dropping trees on it, was going to kill the f**ker and with your man their I had a witness if he went to get physical, he turned heel and walked off muttering to himself once I faced him down, he never opened his mouth again after that.....

Digger man who done his sheds for him aswell was saying this was what he was doing to all his students through the years, he was that bad even with your man's employees, he was warned off going near them when they where concreting his tanks

That's not the case, if they deem that person to be an employee rather than a contractor then you are responsible for the tax

If your in a company, drawing out cash is only costing 12.5% tax?

I reckon the gloves will be off soon enough as regards coops going outside there area into other coops catchement looking for milk…..def in tirlan case

I'll be gone from them here first chance I can get another supplier to take us on, their the most heavily indebted processor by a country mile too, I reckon they'll have money issues down the track too

Drawing cash for personal spending would be taxed as income. What ever rate your on.

Only costing the company 12.5%

Called for nitrates /derogation inspection next week …..what dose one of these entail ….all I’ve been told is all tanks will be measured .check I’ve a river fenced and no stock drinking from it ,they want one feed docket …any lime docket for lime spread this year and your advisor can gather 2023 fertiliser records and submit them after

I’m ok on storage ….more the unknown is the worry ….in fairness guy that rang seemed sound enough

We had dero inspection 3 weeks ago.

All they looked at was troughs, roadways, bales stored 2 high not on concrete base, slurry storage and dykes.

Got on fine have another tank being done at the moment and he was to be back before year end to inspect if this was complete.

Our inspector was fairly agreeable but all might not be the same.

You're lucky to get a phone call. They usually just land on unannounced.

They are only out to catch you. Its near impossible to be 100% complaint. They want to find a fault so they can claw back % of your SFP so they can justify their wage to the department. Just remember they are not on your side.

All you can do is have all paperwork to hand. Help them measure the tanks to make sure they do it correctly.

Had what seemed to me not long in the job inspector call for full a cross compliance last year. When I asked what measurements she got for the tanks lengths it turned out she only measured from inside the walls of the sheds and not to the agitation points on the outside. Also had me down for having more tons of urea in the yard than I had. She was counting a pallet of urea as 2 tons. I got a penalty for not having "adequate effeulent tank" what ever that means. I had the council out 12 months before this they raised no issue about it. I think she just wanted to find something.