Dublin GAA Discussion Thread: Mod Note - No 'Dublin Dominance' chat allowed!

I couldn't be bothered going through all of that. I think your the type of guy that always has to have the last word. I've seen it on other threads too. I'll leave ye to it.

You have won nothing against me gorm. I just don't like going around in circles with you. My point stands you are a very negative Dublin poster. Now off with ya and enjoy the weekend.

My issue with Dessie has always been I don't really have confidence in him and that he knows how to get the best from the lads and motivate them enough. I think we have underachieved since winning 6 in a row but it was always going to happen with players leaving and maybe a lack of drive to keep going at such a high level but its unfortunate especially for some of the younger fellas. There's just something about him as a manager I could never warm to.

Con Kilkenny and Fenton for example are not themselves at all lately there's flash's of there best but not enough for what there capable of. There's a few others but there still the main ones at an age / level where they should be the best in there positions. Cluxton and Gilroy coming back in this year has made a difference there both huge influences on that squad of players in different ways. I imagine Gilroy has a lot to do with lads coming back in and keeping everyone together.

Dessie did very well against Mayo though, Couldn't fault that win - really surprised me. Keeping all those lads on the bench especially Kilkenny.

The bit that annoys me is the media narrative that Dublin have strength in depth now. But you have to say the it is not fresh blood. It is lads that have been around the block for a while/good while.

Basquel - used as an example of strength in depth by the media- great against Mayo probably his best game for Dublin ever, did nothing v Monaghan - no consistency with him

Mannion - again no spring chicken 1 score v Mayo, 1 mark v Monaghan

McCaffery - probably the best of the 'new' faces IMO still has a place as a sub - one score v Monaghan - none v Mayo

Cluxton - he has done alright except for one occasion when he fumbled the ball - I suppose by his presence alone he is worth his place - more often than not a calming influence

Rock - can't start games now - but can come on for crucial frees - 1 point v Mayo, had a simple finish for the goal Monaghan made by Con

Kilkenny -

Paddy Andrews can't understand why he is benched now (see the OTB final podcast above before all the back and forth meself and @YabaDabaDooley had)

And again here -

But I think Kilkenny slows the game too much - if Dessie wants a fast pacey direct game I can understand why he benches him makes sense - he got one score v Mayo - none v Monaghan - but from what I remember he settled things a bit when he came on

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I have great respect for Dessie and hope he can win us an All-Ireland on Sunday. either way, win or lose I say he will pull the plug on Dublin before next year. who will take the job?.. I don't know. Maybe one of the Boards users on here as they seem to have an answer for everything.

Ultimately Cluxton has a full back and others too so… I don’t know, if I’m a Kerry player and I can put him under pressure, ok, but why not kick it over the bar and take the score unless a goal is needed ? Could get OTT with targeting the keeper but maybe take your points and target keeping the scoreboard ticking over.

I don’t know why but I’ve a feeling David Gough might need to be on point from the throw in.

it’s not a fictional argument to make that the overall standard of refereeing in football has nosedived really. An awful lot of ex-pros in the media countrywide are now accepting that and going to the efforts of lambasting the standards we have seen over the last 5 or 6 years. Peter Canavan, Colm Boyle, Ciaran Whelan and the Gooch all not exactly shy about sticking it to the refs in the media the last few years…and that includes very recently……so it’s not just Dublin sour grapes over a few calls. People all ove are annoyed.

hopefully we are not lambasting and instead congratulating Gough regardless of the result… just seems too often we now are seeing referees being the focal point of many a post match discussion…. They’ll make mistakes but the high profile nature of some of them and the daylight robbery and incompetence of them in some instances now….

I was at the semi-final last year. Dublin repeatedly worked the ball into the Kerry corners and mostly got dispossessed or kicked wides from stupid angles. It looked incredibly easy to defend for Kerry. It was obviously some pre-game tactical decision but I couldn't understand why they kept doing it when it clearly wasn't working, so many wasted Dublin possessions. I feel like as long we don't do that again and keep the Kerry goals to a minimum then we'll be in with a great chance.

Here is the RTE GAA Podcast with the Gooch, Mossy Quinn discussing the final. Rory Jennings the neutral. And Evanne the ref.

Bit of a disagreement over whether it will be a cagey match or not.

Surprised it took them 18 minutes to mention Con O'Callaghan to be honest.

It's AI final weekend 🏆️ I really hope it's a super game. Let D Clifford have his few points but don't kill ourselves trying to manage him when there are other dangers around. And I hope after the quiet semi final that Basquel has a good game, because he's been great for us this season. Not entirely delighted with Scully starting, but we have a strong bench. Can't wait for Sunday - COYBIB!!

Ger Brennan's take on the final-

Ger tipped Dublin by three (but qualified it with a 'in saying that') - to be known in Kerry you have to do back to back AI's.

Also Cluxton is going to be booted out of the retired Dublin players whatapp group.

Dublin Team

Kerry Team

O'Gara Seems to have gone off the scene completely. Was looking good in a couple of the early games. If I remember he had a bit of a face on him when subbed early on, may not have helped his cause. I wonder if Scully will play from the start. anyway looking forward to Sunday. Hopefully stays dry for most of the day.

I have no idea why Scully features so much for Dublin, just can't see what he brings to the side. He is no Flynn thats for certain.

Scully is versatile I suppose, can end up anywhere. He is no Paul Flynn alright but then again who was/is? A very high bar to judge a fella.

He just walks around and looks uninterested and sloppy at times. Like his yellow card in the semifinal. Loses an easy ball it seemed and then trips the player. Stupid. On the other side he has scored a good amount of goals for us.

Hopefully the lads coming off the bench came make the difference tomorrow if named 15 start.