Strokestown Mod Note in Post #4461

pgj2015 · 25-11-2020 11:45pm

mgn wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/busted-developers-house-hits-market-for-500000-29059181.html

The Hanleys only live a few miles away from the McGanns house and are seen as great businessmen in the area, owing hundreds of millions around place and the taxpayer,
The McGanns are seen as idiots and fools for owing a few hundred thousand, looks like if your going to owe money, you might as well do it right.

And before anyone thinks i'm defending the McGanns, i'm not, the should have being evicted years ago.

Did anyone buy the house or did they get to keep it?

blackwhite · 25-11-2020 11:50pm

pgj2015 wrote: »

I doubt the IRA care about a farm in stroketown. wanabe IRA maybe?

Their political wing seems to care about it enough to act as spokespeople for the McGann family

https://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/51917

https://www.mattcarthy.ie/carthy-to-host-stop-the-vultures-stop-the-evictions-event-in-strokestown-this-thursday/

Nevin Parsnipp · 26-11-2020 10:34am

pgj2015 wrote: »

I doubt the IRA care about a farm in stroketown. wanabe IRA maybe?

Lotta big sheds there though....save them building a circuit court an a prison if they gets into power.

Judge and punish in the one building like .....

Smart bize them Shinners...IRA

timple23 · 26-11-2020 7:54pm

KevRossi wrote: »

There is SFA respect in the area for the Hanleys, especially Alan Hanley. Bertie owed plenty of money in the 80's and only paid it back years later. Alan paid none of what he owed from the noughties.

People are sick of them too. Yes, they still employ a lot of people locally, but there's little love or respect for them.

Do they own a quarry?

tayto lover · 26-11-2020 8:22pm

blackwhite wrote: »

Their political wing seems to care about it enough to act as spokespeople for the McGann family

https://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/51917

https://www.mattcarthy.ie/carthy-to-host-stop-the-vultures-stop-the-evictions-event-in-strokestown-this-thursday/

Unfortunately for themselves and at the expense of not getting future votes from the middle classes the Shinners always support anyone who is looking for something for nothing or those who pay nothing.

27-11-2020 5:44pm

Third man arrested. https://www.longfordleader.ie/news/home/592215/third-man-jailed-over-refusal-to-leave-controversial-roscommon-farm.html

KevRossi · 27-11-2020 5:59pm

timple23 wrote: »

Do they own a quarry?

Yes. And several construction companies, most of which went to the wall 10 years or so ago.

Nevin Parsnipp · 29-11-2020 8:53pm

KevRossi wrote: »

Yes. And several construction companies, most of which went to the wall 10 years or so ago.

Whut is they livin on ..this poster wonders...The Disabilithy ?

Brendan Bendar · 29-11-2020 10:40pm

Nevin Parsnipp wrote: »

Whut is they livin on ..this poster wonders...The Disabilithy ?

Howley needs to give ‘em a ring up, Nev.

Mad_maxx · 29-11-2020 10:45pm

timple23 wrote: »

Do they own a quarry?

you cant trust anyone who owns a quarry in my experience

Brendan Bendar · 29-11-2020 10:57pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

you cant trust anyone who owns a quarry in my experience

:eek:

Jaysus.....

29-11-2020 11:02pm

Nevin Parsnipp wrote: »

Whut is they livin on ..this poster wonders...The Disabilithy ?

I’d imagine that two of the siblings and two of the arrested have pensions.

KevRossi · 30-11-2020 2:35pm

Nevin Parsnipp wrote: »

Whut is they livin on ..this poster wonders...The Disabilithy ?

The quarry still makes plenty of money and has been doing a huge trade the past 6 years. They'll get a big boost as the new N5 bypass is going right beside the quarry so they'll be in a good position to get a low tender in for that.

They had such a massive turnover and so many companies on the go here and abroad that i'd be shocked if they didn't have several million invested elsewhere.

Alan Hanley was big into his cars, always had a couple of Ferraris, Lamborghinis etc on the go, even at the height of the recession there were a couple of Lotus Espirit's parked outside. Bertie had a RR (or Bentley) for a long time and the usual Porsche's etc were always there. So they have always had some form of income.

Brendan Bendar · 30-11-2020 3:13pm

KevRossi wrote: »

The quarry still makes plenty of money and has been doing a huge trade the past 6 years. They'll get a big boost as the new N5 bypass is going right beside the quarry so they'll be in a good position to get a low tender in for that.

They had such a massive turnover and so many companies on the go here and abroad that i'd be shocked if they didn't have several million invested elsewhere.

Alan Hanley was big into his cars, always had a couple of Ferraris, Lamborghinis etc on the go, even at the height of the recession there were a couple of Lotus Espirit's parked outside. Bertie had a RR (or Bentley) for a long time and the usual Porsche's etc were always there. So they have always had some form of income.

Were they ‘garaged’ in the big sheds out the back.

Odelay · 30-11-2020 3:27pm

Nothing like having two completely unrelated stories in the one thread for a bit of confusion.

Brendan Bendar · 30-11-2020 4:32pm

Odelay wrote: »

Nothing like having two completely unrelated stories in the one thread for a bit of confusion.

How come ?

Lookin at the big picture, me.

Do explain.

Drifter50 · 30-11-2020 10:30pm

KevRossi wrote: »

The quarry still makes plenty of money and has been doing a huge trade the past 6 years. They'll get a big boost as the new N5 bypass is going right beside the quarry so they'll be in a good position to get a low tender in for that.

They had such a massive turnover and so many companies on the go here and abroad that i'd be shocked if they didn't have several million invested elsewhere.

Alan Hanley was big into his cars, always had a couple of Ferraris, Lamborghinis etc on the go, even at the height of the recession there were a couple of Lotus Espirit's parked outside. Bertie had a RR (or Bentley) for a long time and the usual Porsche's etc were always there. So they have always had some form of income.

Yes you`re right but there is not too many local people who would give the Hanly`s much support at this stage but maybe I`m wrong. Bertie scorched a lot of issues back in the 80`s and 90`s and Alan did the same in the noughties so there is a fair bit of wreckage behind them. Speaking of which where is Catriona these days, have`nt heard sight or sound for a long time

KevRossi · 01-12-2020 12:45am

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Were they ‘garaged’ in the big sheds out the back.

Yes they were. One or two seriously interesting machines there that were never registered here and are back in the UK now. He had a mad idea about opening a supercar museum in Ballyfarnon, but that was put to bed a long time ago.

pgj2015 · 01-12-2020 6:47pm

KevRossi wrote: »

Yes they were. One or two seriously interesting machines there that were never registered here and are back in the UK now. He had a mad idea about opening a supercar museum in Ballyfarnon, but that was put to bed a long time ago.

Why do you think that was a mad idea?

Brendan Bendar · 01-12-2020 7:03pm

pgj2015 wrote: »

Why do you think that was a mad idea?

Because only mad tossers would have any interest in it.

Wait... :eek:

Maybe not..........

pgj2015 · 01-12-2020 8:33pm

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Because only mad tossers would have any interest in it.

Wait... :eek:

Maybe not..........

Yeah that is true, sure no one likes super cars. You would see any amount of them around Roscommon., its a bit like Dubai in that way.

KevRossi · 02-12-2020 4:06pm

pgj2015 wrote: »

Why do you think that was a mad idea?

Location, Location, Location.

It was more a vanity project. If you want a museum then either place it in a major city (Schlumpf, Le Mans, Autohaus) or else offer something along with it (Manoir d'Automobile in Loheac or Classic Remise in Berlin), or put it somewhere near a lot of people with good infrastructure nearby (Technik Museum Sinsheim, British Motor Museum).

If you wanted people to look at cars then in or near Dublin is the place. Having it down a boreen in north Roscommon is not a good idea. If it had becvome a success then getting there and back would have been a disaster.

pgj2015 · 02-12-2020 4:18pm

KevRossi wrote: »

Location, Location, Location.

It was more a vanity project. If you want a museum then either place it in a major city (Schlumpf, Le Mans, Autohaus) or else offer something along with it (Manoir d'Automobile in Loheac or Classic Remise in Berlin), or put it somewhere near a lot of people with good infrastructure nearby (Technik Museum Sinsheim, British Motor Museum).

If you wanted people to look at cars then in or near Dublin is the place. Having it down a boreen in north Roscommon is not a good idea. If it had becvome a success then getting there and back would have been a disaster.

Look at all the visitors Arigna mine gets every year.

Water John · 02-12-2020 7:49pm

Visited a wonderful car museum in Nelson on the South Island NZ last year. Best to have visitor attractions geographically spread.

Brendan Bendar · 02-12-2020 7:56pm

Water John wrote: »

Visited a wonderful car museum in Nelson on the South Island NZ last year. Best to have visitor attractions geographically spread.

Are there water charges in that neck of the woods John?

Water John · 02-12-2020 8:05pm

Actually don't know, was just visiting. Great public health insurance. for example if you get a sprain, doesn't matter whether at work or sport, you visit your GP who certifies you. your off work (paid) and get physio sessions. So good you don't need insurance to drive a car, if you don't want to.
Really off topic, see a mod peeping over the horizon.

Brendan Bendar · 02-12-2020 8:10pm

Water John wrote: »

Actually don't know, was just visiting. Great public health insurance. for example if you get a sprain, doesn't matter whether at work or sport, you visit your GP who certifies you. your off work (paid) and get physio sessions. So good you don't need insurance to drive a car, if you don't want to.
Really off topic, see a mod peeping over the horizon.

Good observation, John.

Adios.

Odelay · 02-12-2020 10:25pm

pgj2015 wrote: »

Look at all the visitors Arigna mine gets every year.

I hear they are moving it to Dublin next year to get more visitors from the Guinness Storehouse.

alias no.9 · 03-12-2020 10:24am

The legal entity of former Garda Kevin Taylor is suing KBC/Garda Comissioner/Security Company

for physical and psychological injuries he says he sustained during the eviction in Co Roscommon two years ago.

He's even engaged conventional legal representation! Wonders will never cease.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/ex-garda-sues-bank-andstate-for-alleged-assault-at-disputed-farmhouse-eviction-39820216.html

Mad_maxx · 03-12-2020 12:06pm

there should be no story here , they should have been turfed out long ago , the issue has been hijacked by SF populist types who think railing against the banks endlessly will deliver more votes

repossessions are far too few and far between in this country , its why mortgage rates are so high , ignore spoofers like Pierce Doherty

windy shepard henderson · 07-12-2020 12:51am

Mad_maxx wrote: »

there should be no story here , they should have been turfed out long ago , the issue has been hijacked by SF populist types who think railing against the banks endlessly will deliver more votes

repossessions are far too few and far between in this country , its why mortgage rates are so high , ignore spoofers like Pierce Doherty

I cant believe politicians at pierces level would back this farce , far enough the bailiffs that said they were not irish should be shot but it should have gone no further then that

weldoninhio · 07-12-2020 8:58am

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

I cant believe politicians at pierces level would back this farce , far enough the bailiffs that said they were not irish should be shot but it should have gone no further then that

Why? We are in the EU, bailiffs from any other EU country can work here and vice versa.

dubrov · 07-12-2020 9:03am

windy shepard henderson wrote:

I cant believe politicians at pierces level would back this farce , far enough the bailiffs that said they were not irish should be shot but it should have gone no further then that

It's a bit like Trump encouraging people to ignore the law (when it suits them)

CB19Kevo · 28-07-2023 2:33pm

3 scumbags will serve 15 years.

This case was complicated however there can be no excuses for the violence against persons and an animal on the night.

Amirani · 28-07-2023 2:36pm

15 years are pretty hefty sentences alright. Some of them didn't exactly help themselves...

Before imposing sentence, Judge Baxter asked O’Toole, who was representing himself, if he wished to address the court or to seek the assistance of counsel. O’Toole said: “I’ve been denied the right to a free and fair trial because my legal team refused to take my instructions, that’s all I have to say”.

KevRossi · 28-07-2023 2:43pm

15 years is a crazy length of time for what they did. It's regarded as an attack on the longer arm of the 'great and the good' in this country, i.e. the financial institutions. Mad how you can spend a couple fo decades raping kids and get half that sentence. Or fcuk the country up financially and you get no sentence at all.

5 years each would have done them. FWIW I would have know Paul Beirne back in his 20's and 30's and I never got on with him, always thought him to be a hotheaded prlck, but this is excessively harsh.

AlanG · 28-07-2023 2:44pm

I wonder if all those who participated are still happy they tried to help these millionaires hold onto the land they borrowed for and failed to pay back. The family out bid many locals for land that came up as the other locals actually intended paying back the loans.

28-07-2023 2:57pm

Not long enough some might say..

Allinall · 28-07-2023 2:59pm

No sympathy for them at all.

They won't be able to do similar for a long time, and it may well deter others from such thuggery.

Well done judge.

apache · 28-07-2023 3:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120908366#Comment_120908366

Was it not a brutal sustained beating though? All the weapons they used. It must have been terrifying. And the abuse of the dog and the setting fire to vehicles and breaking into the house. It was mayhem. A good sentence.

Kingp35 · 28-07-2023 3:09pm

They deserve every bit of that sentence.

Amirani · 28-07-2023 3:09pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120908515#Comment_120908515

All of this, and they showed no remorse for their actions whatsoever. Society is better without them in it.

28-07-2023 3:41pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120908372#Comment_120908372

I assume the farmer involved contributed a hefty sum of money to their legal defences and stood with them each day in court....................

No, I'm joking

28-07-2023 3:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120908301#Comment_120908301

The man was in a hole and when offered a chance by the judge he tries to dig his way to Australia.

pat_sconce · 28-07-2023 3:46pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120908573#Comment_120908573

pity consecutive sentencing is not the norm here - they'd then rot behind bars.

Utterly barbaric actions

facehugger99 · 28-07-2023 3:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120908366#Comment_120908366

Make up your mind buddy - you either want strong sentences or weak ones. You can't be whinging about certain crimes not being given adequate jailtime while claiming these violent sociopaths should only be given 5 years.

Personally I'm delighted these scumbags have been locked away for a very long time - good riddance to them

SEPT 23 1989 · 28-07-2023 3:51pm

Don’t ever mess with the grubby money lenders is the message it sounds out

15 years is outrageous

28-07-2023 3:54pm

Is there a “good Republican” angle to this?

facehugger99 · 28-07-2023 4:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120908788#Comment_120908788

Undoubtedly - Boards resident Shinnerbots are already mobilizing to decry the severity of the sentences.

Gregor Samsa · 28-07-2023 4:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120908777#Comment_120908777

They made a guy get down on his knees and eat dogshít (that came out of a dog that they had battered half to death) under the threat of death, and you think that's fine because... banks.

You're broken.

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