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Rugby Championship 2023

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    #122
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users Posts: 11,146 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    What if they are only gearing up to the world cup? What if they don't give a shite about this shortened tournament.

    Your claim was that they might just not care, which there is zero evidence at all to back up - from the team they picked to their early travel to how frustrated and shook the team looked during the match.

    Stating 'we'll see' simply makes zero sense, as all the evidence already happened.



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    #123
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,991 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Whether or not SA do well in the world cup, the performance in NZ was just objectively bad. It would not be beneficial for any team.



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    #124
    ersatz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭ersatz


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120909224#Comment_120909224

    It was a defensive disaster but NZ had a brilliant start which is one of those things that happens against them sometimes (and against Ireland), yet SA came back into the game very well. Rassie's substitutions and moving around the backline really did the damage in the second half. That was self inflicted.



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    #125
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,991 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120909247#Comment_120909247

    Sure, its incredibly frustrating when you play them.

    But it was not good preparation for a tournament where they may well have to play the same team. It just highlighted that they aren't at the same level - and they were clearly targeting the game given the selections.



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    #126
    ersatz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭ersatz


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120909256#Comment_120909256

    I agree, not ideal prep this close to the competition to figure out what you shouldn't be doing. I think it's also the case that the shortened championship before a WC always has an Asterix.



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    #127
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,581 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120909164#Comment_120909164

    I don't need evidence. Why would I need evidence for a supposition?



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    #128
    Shehal
    Registered Users Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭Shehal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120909767#Comment_120909767

    You're basically saying SA lost on purpose. I dont really see how it could benefit them in anyway and if they lost because they didnt care about beating one of their RWC rivals then I would find that even more alarming. It means they are going into a RWC having lost to Ireland, France & NZL in their last outing against all 3...idk about you but I am struggling to see the logic for this...



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    #129
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,581 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120910098#Comment_120910098

    I'm not saying that. I'm speculating. I think they are more likely attempting to get their squad ready for the important challenge, rather than the lesser tournament.



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    #130
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,581 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120899955#Comment_120899955

    I assume this is the "evidence". Where does it say they purposely lost. I offer a viewpoint based on the rugby being played in France.



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    #131
    Shehal
    Registered Users Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭Shehal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120910524#Comment_120910524

    By gearing up for the RWC you mean just keep doing what they've been doing this WC cycle? Again not giving a **** about this tournament is a bad sign, how with that attitude can they have any aspirations of winning a big QF never mind the WC? Its great if they are loaded man for man, what they need to do is actually show it on the pitch and no they aren't finding balance its literally the same team that played in the RWC 4 years ago bar the players injured etc.



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    #132
    lawrencesummers
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    I expect a bit of a backlash from australia today, and then a 15 point loss as NZ expand on their newly acquired confidence and tactical approach.



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    #133
    Buddy Bubs
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    You can tell by selection whether SA were going all out to win that game. Rested players v Australia to try prep for NZ.

    In contrast, Australia using this match coming up now to try get a squad capable of winning a world cup QF match then its game on....there can't be realistic expectations that this Aus team will win this match.

    Sad to see Australia so poor, I always liked them some of my favourite players wear green and gold in my 30 years of watching rugby.



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    #134
    AdamD
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    Some amount of pre-match stuff here, is it ever gonna kick off?



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    #135
    TheRona
    Registered Users Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭TheRona


    Wow. That try happened in the blink of an eye.

    NZ kicking game has been impressive the last couple of matches.



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    #136
    AdamD
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    Scott Barrett won the 50/50 on the ground earlier in the play then kills the 9 to create the try



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    #137
    TheRona
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120911358#Comment_120911358

    Australia have finally discovered their culture the last few years. They need to learn to abbreviate it a bit. At least they've added a bit of a dance now to combat the NZ dance.



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    #138
    TheRona
    Registered Users Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭TheRona


    I'm sorry, but that is not reaching to place the ball. That's a clear second movement. His entire body moved forward, not just his arm.



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    #139
    Shehal
    Registered Users Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭Shehal


    That Barrett hit was about as perfect a thumping hit as you'll get!


    Early days but I actually really like the look of the new Australian 10, if he keeps going at this rate I'd keep at 10 going forward.



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    #140
    Brief_Lives
    Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    This has been a lively start. 7-5, 8mins



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    #141
    Shehal
    Registered Users Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭Shehal


    And Koroibete equals Barrett with a perfectly legal crunching hit! And Australia get the turn over.



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    #142
    TheRona
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    The tackler never released on the tackle with Telea and went straight at the ball. Come on Wayne Barnes....sort it out.



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    #143
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users Posts: 8,586 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Aussies getting the better of the breakdown especially after they force NZ into 5/6 phases.



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    #144
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users Posts: 8,586 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    The amount of lads getting taken out off the ball is mad.



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    #145
    Brief_Lives
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    Skelton playing very well so far.



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    #146
    Captain_Crash
    Registered Users Posts: 2,772 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    NZ getting away with a lot at the breakdown! Good few times they’ve been off feet/sealing off etc and Barnes does nothing! Also a high ball a few mins ago an Aussie player competing for the ball was just swatted away by a runner!



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    #147
    TheRona
    Registered Users Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭TheRona


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120911473#Comment_120911473

    Dunno what game you're watching. There's been a tonne of poor calls in favour of Aussie 🤷‍♂️



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    #148
    AdamD
    Registered Users Posts: 12,654 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    That's not a try for me



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    #149
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users Posts: 8,586 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Joke. He clearly kicked the ball, touched it with his foot.



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    #150
    Captain_Crash
    Registered Users Posts: 2,772 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120911492#Comment_120911492

    Hopefully it’s the same one lol! It’s only the NZ ones I’ve noticed so far, I’ll keep an even sharper eye out 😉



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    #151
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,991 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120911494#Comment_120911494

    looked more like a GAA pick up really to me. It wasn't a kick even if it touched his foot.

    Though it very much seemed like the yellow wasn't coming until after the botched quick tap.



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