Tesla Talk

Is this an exaggeration? Did you literally bring Tesla to a courtroom where a judge ruled in your favor four times? Or is this just a case of legal action taken where both parties settled out of court? Because there is a difference- Any rational car owner would say "its easier to just drive around in another brand" after being stung with the time and money on the first court case, let alone four. I don't think this story makes the point you think it does.

This post isn't true. If you read the article you would see that the Kona, for example, reached the advertised range. In fact, it underestimated the distance the car could travel.

Recurrent tested other automakers’ in-dash range meters – including the Ford Mustang Mach-E, the Chevrolet Bolt and the Hyundai Kona – and found them to be more accurate. The Kona’s range meter generally underestimated the distance the car could travel, the tests showed.

Secondly, its not comparable to include diesel, petrol or otherwise in this whataboutery. With these vehicles, the issue of overestimated range is not as big a concern as you can just refill your car. It takes longer to charge an EV.

One of the main issues is that Tesla appear to be the worst manufacture compared to other EV manufacturers for overestimating their ranges.

Pannone told Reuters that three Tesla models posted the worst performance, falling short of their advertised ranges by an average of 26%.

Maybe I read a different article to everyone else? The problem wasn’t that cars weren’t hitting their WLTP figures, it was that the GoM was being deliberately overly optimistic about the remaining range (in km) when fully charged.

As an example of an ICE car manufacturer's figures Vs. real world figures, for my previous ICE engined car, the manufacturer's official figures were 58.9 to 68.9 mpg achieved and I average almost 45 mpg over 31,000 miles / 50,000 kms.

My mpg figures were absolutely accurate used on a fill-to-fill calculations and it was the most economical (ICE) car that I ever owned.

So my MPG figures are about 24% down on the lower official MPG figure.

My Tesla achieved between 295kms (winter) to 450kms (summer) - I didn't run the battery down to 0% but extrapolated the 100% range based on the kms covered and the % remaining.

That is between 40% and 8% down on the 491km advertised range. The winter range is lower than I expected but the summer range is good.

For both cars the usage would have a similar profile -- mostly suburban use with occasional long runs.

Separately, my ICE car fuel cost €4,100 over the 50,000kms or €82 per 1,000km. (for info, it would have cost €4,700 at today's fuel prices or €94 per 1,000km).

The Tesla has cost €225 over 10,000kms or €22 per 1,000km (that is mostly charging at home with just a few public charging stops).

The Cork store and service centre now reported as open (J3 N25)

I'll be getting my first EV in the next 6 months. Most likely a M3 LR as I have a long round trip once a week for work (400 km on motorway with no option to charge it where it's parked during the day). In summer It should do it. I'll need to stop on way back in winter....

I've looked into other options and really waiting to see details on the Seal. Expecting similar price so real world range Will be the big thing. I like the look of it inside and out.

Waiting on news on the M3 refresh too of course, hoping for an extra bit of range 😄

Until other manufacturers have no issues with long distance travel, no. It has to be as simple as in a Tesla for me to switch brands.

I wish the government would tender national network development and award it to the likes of Tesla who have a proven track record. The ESB execs frankly haven't a clue how to properly develop and maintain a national charging network. A caveat for awarding the tender would be to open the network for all brands to use.

That's the most important thing to me. But then I obviously won't pay more money for a slower, less efficient, crap software, no (or very small) frunk car.

And a screen behind the steering wheel is not a priority, once you get used to the high res big single display, anything else feels like a step backwards. And a snappy interface please, it's not 2013 anymore 🤌

So for me to change from Teslas, the other manufacturers would need to really step up their game...

As an Australian, I have never heard that 50% thing, probably because no one ever says it because it's so blindingly obvious to anyone who's ever ventured ouside a city. It's not very worthwhile as advice as there in all liklihood may not be anywhere to fill up when you get down to 50%.

Does your sister live in a City? ;-)

I well remember setting out early one morning and looking very nervously at the low fuel warning light several tens of km out from Mt Magnet north of Perth - in a car with a 4L petrol engine. :-)

Made it on fumes I reckon. Yep, fill up when you can, but it's not always possible to keep it above 50%.

Although I disagree with cnocbui on a lot of things, I'd have to agree that there are many parts of Townsville-Darwin-Perth-Port Augusta/Uluru where you don't really have an option but to fill. In part due to the poorer fuel economy from the big engines.