Fertilizer register

Mandatory. From 1st Sept you'll have to register as a buyer/user of fertiliser, and from 15th Sept you'll have a month to declare your closing stocks on the 15th.

You'll have nothing further to do other than once a year you'll have to declare your closing stocks of the 15/9.

When you purchase fertiliser, you give your herd number to the merchant who registers your purchases onnyhe database.

Currently we have limits to the amount of fertiliser we can use. The fertiliser database won't affect these limits.

Farmers who buy direct from NI or elsewhere abroad will have seperate entries to complete.

At the moment, derogation farmers have to return a fertiliser usage form with receipts anually. This will simplify that return.

I know....the next thing people will ask....how do we get around that?

Put in a "Pitch and putt course" dont draw down any sfp , their allowed to buy fertilizer no bother and afaik theirs no limits on what they can put out

Theirs going to a great opertiunity for lads that do bulk spreading and maybe run a lorry our two at bulk haulage near the border regions bringing in bulk loads and spreading for lads and for arguements sake invoicing it as meal etc will be a nice margin to be made, even in the case of merchants that might switch to handing more bulk fertilizer if a department inspector rocks in and looks into a shed with 1000 ton of fertilizer piled in on paper, their could be 200-300 hundred ton extra maybe not accounted for how can he prove it, its impossible to police

Won't be a problem there unless they are really a crap farmer that has to resort to that.

It will really impact the organic farmer that wasn't really organic though.

Where would you find out what the limit is. Id guess im well under but what is the allowance?

I did my Scep weighing yesterday and have 2 bulls born last week sep and first week oct that weight 450 and 435.

Not been fed and grass organic! Now is suspect they would prob be 420kg in the mart rather the live weight but an ounce of breeding over a tonne of feeding.

I doubt lads are feeding non organic meal. The risk vs reward is terrible.

I can undestand someone chancing a few bags as it’s spread and gone.

But having non organic meal around if you were inspected it’s day day to your licence.

👀👀👀😱😱😱😱😱such things don't happen In good ould eire surly........say it ain't so

Gran lime is no issue

There's heaps of lads feeding non organic meal. Even boasting about it in WhatsApp groups. Most is bought for cash and can't be traced and very hard for the inspector to prove unless they catch someone in the actual act of feeding it. The OCBs won't have access to the register so it won't actually be able to be policed either.

That makes some sense but still the risk v reward…….. I was at an AeTS last year and heard the story of a lad getting caught at that in year 3/4 and payments getting clawed back. I assume it’s the exception rather than the rule.

I went organic to stop feeding the meal due to the hassle of it. Only problem I see with autumn calving sucklers is the need for the odd cow to get a shake if she is a little light as a heifer or a calf is double sucking. Hoping to get a tonne of organic oats from someone.

🤣🤣 if I'm putting in a pitch and putt I won't stop there, twill be a 18 hole parkland course seeped in chemicals and knee deep in fertiliser!

Farmer A has 100 cattle and rents 50 acres from his retired neighbour for silage. He spreads slurry on the 50 acres and buys chemical fertiliser for it as well.

Farmer B has 100 cattle and buys silage on the flat off 50 acres from his retired neighbour. He exports slurry back to the 50 acres and the neighbour buys and spreads the chemical fertiliser.

In one scenario, the farmer is going to have hassle via the fertiliser register? In the other he won't? Even though production and land used is the same in both?

The point was in relation to the N/P/K usage on the farms. Not entitlements or BISS

In both cases, there will be the same amount produced by the animals. In both cases, this will be calculated over the same area. But in farmer B's case, he won't have anything on the fertiliser register. (The retired neighbour will though)

That is the point. Buying in meal puts up your P. I don't think buying in grass puts up your N

What you didn't seem to read between the lines is that what I said above could be used by some farmers to reduce their entry to the fertiliser register if if is going to cause them trouble.......................