Cold Case Review of Sophie Tuscan du Plantier murder to proceed. **Threadbans in OP**

Alfie was incapable. We have no reason to suspect those that state this are lying.

I'm focusing on Bailey because no one comes close to the level of historic violence, lies, opportunity, motive etc. You think everyone was out to get poor Bailey, the guards, Bill Fuller, etc. It's all a big conspiracy. The problem with that is that they didn't force or make up the beatings Bailey gave to Jules, they didn't give him his injuries, they didn't start the fire behind his house, they didn't force him to say he did it, they didn't make him lie and change his story about the night in question. This all came from Bailey. He's the leading suspect because of his actions and suspicious behaviour. Full stop.

I would correct you: The botched investigation not only could be, but more likely is the actual reason, how possibly Bailey or equally any other suspect has gotten away.

If you believe so much that Bailey did it, how come there was never a conviction in an Irish court? - Because there was never any shred of evidence beyond reasonable doubt that he did it, - there is absolutely nothing, same as against all the other possible suspects.

When was this?

That's exactly what I said. We'll never get a conviction for this murder unless there's a confession. Absence of evidence doesn't mean absence of guilt though.

Again, this is not a conspiracy. I have no bias against Bailey. The guards, those testifying against him, forensic experts etc don't have any bias against him. He's the lead suspect because of the long list I've mentioned. I haven't rejected the DPP, I said they're not infallible. The guards were investigating the murder, not Bailey. It was botched, hence no conviction. Bailey is the main suspect based on the long list, I can keep repeating them if you want. They are far from based on nothing. If someone else had the same or more against them, then they'd be the leading suspect. That's not even close to being the case though. Hence, why Bailey is top of the list.

It wasn't just botched.

The Guards are caught on the Bandon tape trying to pressurise another Guard into changing a statement.

The jobs book was tampered with. It was not botched. It was malpractice. Conveniently the culprit was deceased so charges weren't pressed.

Then there's the total dodginess with Marie Farrell.

To talk of the guards conduct in this case feigning ignorance of all that is an entirely bad faith argument.

Bailey being top of the list lead 'suspect' in and of itself is meaningless in light of such conduct and the tunnel vision by AGS viewed everything Bailey did with suspicion.

Miscarriages of justice happen all the time to the 'lead suspect' when police forces engage in such antics. That's why the DPP is there to judge the evidence.

And as I have noted already on the thread, all that digging and what AGS came up with was flimsy, debateable, dodgy.

So as far as I'm concerned Bailey is not the lead suspect anymore. It is person or persons unknown.

Do you have any official statement to the contrary by authorities here?

The investigation was botched. That doesn't take away from all the things against Bailey that you want to ignore:

We've still got the extreme violence committed by Bailey a short time before the murder, we've got his premonition of something bad happening in the area, we've got the changing stories and unknown whereabouts on the night, we've got the injuries, we've got the motive which came from Bailey himself, we've got the suspicious fire, the list goes on. What are your excuses for Bailey on all of those for you to state he's not a suspect in the murder?

Well the Bandon Garda station tapes they found later on, were pretty strong evidence they wanted to blame on and focus only on Bailey. Or the way the coerced Marie Farell?

It would have been even worse of the Garda in terms of corruption and collusion, if the killer was one of their own, as one speculation goes.

It would also have drained resources, made an open minded investigation in every direction impossible.

Suppose hypothetically her husband Daniel really sent a contract killer, placing a phone call from a public phone box, to a friend who again knew someobody who'd do the job for money? And this somebody wasn't even French, maybe Dutch, or Belgian, flew into Ireland or Northern Ireland not even from France, rented a car, drove to a pre determined place and address some believe it isn't possible to find for an outsider, does the killing and departs again? Garda back then and their incompetence and focus on Bailey they wouldn't have figured it out anyway.

It's possible that it was a botched investigation and the murderer was Bailey. It's far more likely that the culprit was the man with a history of violence and who said he killed Sophie than some wild Hollywood type script in my view.

Bailey was the main focus or the prime suspect because he rose to the top of the list of potential suspects / persons of interest given the extensive list of reasons to suspect him - no one else looked into as a potential person of interest came even close to Bailey as a suspect for having murdered Sophie.

Malachi Reed gave a part of his life to doing the right thing by Sophie and by her family by coming forward as a witness and giving evidence for the defendants in the libel proceedings which Bailey unsuccessfully initiated against various publishers. It was clear that being involved with this case was not something Malachi took any relish in and that he had not been someone who was looking for the attention that came with it and instead it was something that he did because it was the right thing to do. Is it any wonder all of that unwanted attention took a toll on Malachi but he did the right thing and his testimony was clear, strong, compelling. He had absolutely no doubt whatever in his mind that Bailey’s confession was not an example of or an expression of humour - it was a confession. A weird and twisted one? Yes. Then again, I think it’s reasonably fair to say - and many would agree - that Bailey is a weird, twisted person.

The Shelleys did not go to the pub with Bailey and Jules Thomas the night after Bailey confessed to Ritchie Shelley at The Prairie - it is accurate to say that in the Christmas / New Year period, many people from that general location congregated in that pub and both the Bailey/Thomas couple and the Shelleys were in the same pub at the same time and they acknowledged each other and exchanged words along the lines that Ritchie Shelley told Ian Bailey that up to the previous night he hadn’t believed or known for sure that Bailey had been responsible for Sophie’s death but that now based on what had been said the night before he knew that Bailey had murdered her. It is not accurate to suggest that those couples were out together for the night that night - it is more that they were in the same place at the same time but they were not together that night - any friendship or acquaintance that had existed between the couples up to that point was gone at that stage. The Shelley’s never once wavered or departed from their account of those events - they remained steadfast in their account of Bailey’s behaviour and in what they had observed him to say and to do when he confessed to having committed the murder.

Most witnesses can be challenged as to their credibility - it is very rare to have a witness whose credibility cannot be challenged or whose reputation is so good that they are beyond reproach. It is compelling that Fuller has had the courage to give his evidence in open court on a number of occasions and that he made himself available for cross examination and stood up to that - that is not something that is easy for any witness in these types of extremely serious cases where a woman has been the victim of an extremely violent murder… Bill Fuller did the right thing - he gave his evidence in Bailey’s failed libel action and he travelled to France to give evidence there. I have no doubt that Bill Fuller’s courage has been a support to Sophie’s family. He is to be commended for having the courage to stand up to everything thrown at him by or on behalf of Bailey and to do the right thing regardless.

There are others who have testified to Bailey having confessed to the murder whose credibility is well beyond reproach. One of them is now a Senior Counsel. They never interpreted Bailey’s confession as anything other than an admission of guilt - a weird and twisted one yes… And again - it may fairly be said that Ian Bailey is a weird and twisted man, a foolish man, and a murderer. Time will establish this to be so beyond any reasonable doubt.

Sure why not seek to throw suspicion on Bill Fuller as a potential suspect - Bailey/Bailey supporters literally tried to suggest that everyone and anyone is a viable suspect: Marie Farrell; Jules Thomas; Alf Lyons; a Garda; a horse; Heinz-Wolney; the man from Marseilles; a French hit man; Bruno Carbonet; a criminal drug gang, etc.

Hike? One hour? To quote Withnail & I in reference to how far Uncle Monty would have gone for the chance of sex with Marwood -

‘Withnail : I never thought he'd come all this way.

Marwood : Monty, he'd go to New York!’

Ian Bailey fancied his chances with Sophie or at least that he’d chance his arm; he was heavily intoxicated; he’d already tried to contact her by calling her workplace in Paris, even though she had not given him her number or asked him to contact her. That shows the lengths he was willing to go to and a sort of bold, pushy presumptuousness typical of an egomaniacal narcissist.

He was also in her car as she travelled from the airport towards her holiday home. Again - imposing himself; chancing his arm. Thinking he had a chance and thinking more of himself in terms of his physical attractiveness than was actually the case. She found him weird and said this to her friend - her rejection of him when he had so much drink on board (and spirits in particular) was too much for him to bear.

Have you proof Bailey rang Sophie's office - or are you just basing this on Sophie's friend remembering this year's after the murder when Bailey was chief suspect. It's very convenient she suddenly remembered that phone call.

So you definitely know Bailey was in Sophie's car - wow were you there too?