Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

Some people find ways around rules about work others just fake it and get jobs in healthcare services like this fake child psychologist.

This is not the first case of an unqualified immigrant securing work in healthcare services working with children and having zero qualifications to do so ,so much for strict vetting

There may not be a legal obligation to claim asylum in the first safe country one enters. However, it beggars belief that some posters are excusing the behaviour of those who pass through double-digit counts of safe countries to ostensibly seek ‘sanctuary’.

There’s no outrage. Less of the passive aggression please.

Actually, it hasn’t always been an ‘essential’ part of IPA, that applicants get to pick and choose where they opt to claim asylum. The Dublin convention mandated that applicants were required to claim asylum in the first EU country in which they landed. It’s only relatively recently that the current de-facto free for all has been instituted.

On what basis are you asserting that people were ‘ignoring’ this country for years. Given your vintage, you must be aware that asylum claims have been statistically significant since the mid 1990s. In fact in the early 00’s, Ireland was the premier destination for Nigerian asylum applicants across the entire EU. Hardly undiscovered, virgin territory.

I do agree that our woefully incompetent minister has exacerbated this situation. The sooner he is ejected at the next GE and returned to third rate academia, the better the outcome for this country.

In my view, O’Gorman’s approach wasn’t about appeasing anybody in Brussels. It’s a solo run by an ideologue, who has only ever worked in academia and failed to grasp the pull factors that his nonsense generated.

I do agree that it’s now time for pragmatism and to pull back from much of the misguided policy devised and implemented by ROG.

Read the text of the original Dublin convention. It has since been amended. It’s simply untrue to state that IPAs have always had the option to freely choose where they claim asylum. Nah indeed..

Frankly, I have no expectations around what you believe or disbelieve. It’s of zero consequence to me.

But let’s return to your previous utterance that Ireland was ‘ignored’ until recently. Still standing over that? I guess if you perceive three decades as ‘recent’, that may be justifiable. However, I would argue that it demonstrates a pretty tenuous grasp of chronology..

It ‘literally’ hasn’t. Can you point to a previous government who committed to ‘own door’ accommodation within 4 months and localised tweets into multiple languages, advertising the ‘benefits’ of applying in Ireland.

No fearmongering in play here. The greens are an irrelevant, fringe side-show at best. I have the pleasure of living in O’Gorman’s constituency and can assure you that he’s toast at the next GE.

You can chalk it down to whatever you want ‘Faugheen’, but the inconvenient fact remains, that you are simply incorrect. It’s ironic that you accuse me of ‘fearmongering’, when you issue that hyperbolic little tirade. Let’s have some fun and deconstruct your nonsense.

Let’s start with direct provision. Care to outline precisely how this system is ‘barbaric’, particularly given that it’s the model pursued by many of our partners across the EU.

An asylum seeker lands in Ireland, s/he may or may not have a legitimate claim to remain. However, historical data reveals that the majority of claims are indeed spurious. Meanwhile, whilst their claim is assessed, the applicant is accommodated, albeit communally, fed, watered, receives basic health care, and a small weekly stipend, all financed by the Irish taxpayer.

I’m not seeing any barbarity here. Care to outline specifics ‘Faugheen’? The fact is that many approved asylum seekers remain in direct provision, even after their claim has been approved. That’s a rather inconvenient scenario for you isn’t it? Are you truly advocating for ‘own door’ accommodation in the midst of an acute housing crisis, further disadvantaging those same Irish taxpayers, who are already financing this broken system? Do you believe in exacerbating an already bad situation?

Why are you conflating Ukrainians with IPAs from MENA and sub-Saharan Africa? They are two entirely different migration surfaces, as anybody with a rudimentary understanding comprehends. Ireland has stepped up and taken in a disproportionately large amount of Ukrainians. The population has by-and-large supported this.

Concurrently, O’Gorman’s white paper and localised tweets triggered a 500% YoY increase in asylum applications, from non-Ukrainian IPAs. This spike is directly attributable to an incompetent ideologue who should never have had his hands on the levers of power, regardless if he is ‘green’ or otherwise. I hope this doesn’t induce hyperventilation ‘Faugheen’, but ROG is deeply unpopular in his own Dublin West constituency and will be summarily dismissed, possibly within the next year if rumblings are to be believed.

The immense pressure on space that you describe is the direct result of Roderic O’Gorman’s failures. The electorate are frustrated and understand that the current situation simply isn’t sustainable. That frustration manifests itself in several ways, one of which will be truncating O’Gorman’s political career at the next GE. I suggest you buckle up ‘Faugheen’.

What is inhumane and cruel about it?

What if their family are already in the country to which they are heading? You make refugees and asylum seekers sound like tourists with a travel brochure in front of them picking and choosing which country they wish to claim asylum in. They may have very specific reasons why they wish to go to a certain country (family ties, language, religion, culture, existing community of refugees from their country etc).

Essentially, NGOs and people will vested interests peddle dramatics about the horrors of getting free bed and board in a Hotel. I've seen little to no proof about the "inhumane" conditions of DP.

No, I don’t make it sound anything of the sort. That’s how you choose to interpret it. Given some of your historical utterances on threads of this nature, you’ll forgive me if I’m not entirely confident in any critique you may provide.

Asylum seekers may indeed have specific reasons for targeting a particular country. That’s on them. Meanwhile, the host country has limited capacity and only has the ability to house a finite number of applicants.

When that limited is reached, the perfectly rational response of the host country is to take steps to lower the count of applications and to increase the barriers to entry. This approach is something several of our EU partners have sensibly adopted, with varying degrees of success.

Yes, when the other option seems to be to give them housing, which they could end up in for years on end, costing the tax payer a fortune and taking away housing stock from citizens who badly need homes. A nation that cares for it's citizens last isn't much of a nation, a will eventually crumble under its own errors.