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Another random person hospitalized after unprovoked attack in Dublin city center

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  • Registered Users Posts: 26 Jacksie T Malone


    Where's Lugs Brannigan or indeed Robocop when you need him?




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,842 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I don’t know about a caption but turning up to a work commitment as a government minister yet dressed like she is on her way to Costa to meet a pal for a latte and a muffin, odd, not very professional..not very ministerial



  • Registered Users Posts: 145 ✭✭beastfromtheEast


    There is a total lack of facilities for these young people.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,942 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Yeah but TV and internet mean all these phrases are bobbing about in our heads.

    Prominent Irish people even use baseball metaphors despite being unfamiliar with baseball: "Out of left-field", "lets touch base"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,677 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    That very question was put to her by another guest but unsurprisingly Brunker had no answer.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭Sugar_Rush


    Arian Dirty Stone is dropping truth bombs all over this thread.

    I just have to ask, are you directly involved in politics in some capacity?

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on

    In physics we trust....... (as insanely difficult to decipher as it may be)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,344 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    Ooh, remarks about her attire?

    Is she wearing a mini skirt, boob tube and fishnet stockings?

    What exactly is it about her clothes that is 'not very ministerial '?

    Having a pop at politicians because of their performance is one thing, but having a pop at a politician because of her ( perfectly respectable ) outfit screams of sexism.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭Sugar_Rush


    Recidivism:

    "The only thing prisoners lose, is their freedom".

    93 k per inmate per year.

    Yeah can't see that happening in Ireland.

    In physics we trust....... (as insanely difficult to decipher as it may be)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,344 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    Didn't think you would be in favour of prisons like that here....



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭Sugar_Rush


    I'd be in favor of whatever works and makes the streets more pleasant to walk through.

    Post edited by Sugar_Rush on

    In physics we trust....... (as insanely difficult to decipher as it may be)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 261 ✭✭Fox Tail


    Who wants to live in a small town in the midlands of ireland?

    Dublin is prosperous because it attracts 10s of thousands of young well paid peole every year to live and work there.

    No offence to Athlone, but it is not going to attract and retain the international youth.

    Google, Microsoft et al are never going to set up in a small irish town with nothing going on.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    ... because that worked out so well last time!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,211 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    Brunker grew up in Finglas and left school at 16, still lives in Clontarf. Hardly someone who knows nothing about the situation. What’s actually pretty clueless is to dismiss anyone’s opinion whom you know nothing about.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭donaghs


    So what’s her opinion? Previous poster said when she was asked what specifically she meant beyond the “there’s no facilities” platitude, she had nothing to offer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    She grew up in Finglas 50 years ago, very different now.

    These areas often have plenty of facilities, certainly much more than in most rural areas where somehow the local children manage to not go around assaulting people and terrorising others for the craic.

    Sick of all this bleeding heart bollocks. Enough excuses, let’s call a spade a spade - these kids are just cùnts plain and simple, dragged up by their lazy cùnt parents. Free cash every week, free medical, free transport and a free apartment in the centre of one the most expensive cities in the world and this is how they carry on. Disgusting entitlement amongst them.

    There should be no more allocation of social housing within the city. If they want to live and act like animals they can do it away from the rest of the society that funds them.

    I’m very proud of our welfare state and I’m more than happy to pay higher taxes to provide a social safety net for when people fall on hard times but these people are taking the piss and I’m sick of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,211 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    Sure we’ll take the other posters word for it that in her opinion there’s no facilities. What I was pointing out is that having grown up in Finglas, left school early, made something of herself and still living in Clontarf, she’d have an idea of what she’s talking about, as opposed to the characterisation Northernlilly was trying to portray of her that she knew nothing.



    That isn’t any different to Finglas 50 years ago tbh.

    There’s plenty of youth crime in rural Ireland nowadays as there was 50 years ago, it just doesn’t get as much media attention because, well, it’s rural, and media tends to be more focused on urban crime, and especially crime in Dublin, though for a while Limerick City had the dubious reputation placed on it by Dublin media of ‘Stab City’, a name which it was undeservedly associated with for nearly 40 years.

    Your sentiments aren’t new either, the same sentiments have been expressed of every successive generation, and it’s basically bullshìt really. I see no reason to sugarcoat it for you seeing as you’re able to dish it out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,842 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    turning up for a professional ministerial engagement, dressed casually looking like you could on your way for a coffee is unprofessional yes.

    sexist, ? Haha, Have a word with yourself



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,470 ✭✭✭batman_oh


    This sums it up. It's not a lack of facilities or flowering arranging classes as the little turds have no interest in that. They have access to more stuff for free than basically anybody on the planet. It's that their shoitebag parents who are given everything for nothing in reward for sitting on their holes all day can't be bothered raising their kids as they are incapable of doing anything useful.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭Sugar_Rush


    let’s call a spade a spade - these kids are just cùnts plain and simple, dragged up by their lazy cùnt parents. Free cash every week, free medical, free transport and a free apartment in the centre of one the most expensive cities in the world and this is how they carry on. Disgusting entitlement amongst them.


    There should be no more allocation of social housing within the city. If they want to live and act like animals they can do it away from the rest of the society that funds them.


    I’m very proud of our welfare state and I’m more than happy to pay higher taxes to provide a social safety net for when people fall on hard times but these people are taking the piss and I’m sick of it.

    If only Irish politicians could see this REALITY.

    Or were competent enough to act on it or manage it as is required.

    In physics we trust....... (as insanely difficult to decipher as it may be)



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭Sugar_Rush


    Your sentiments aren’t new either, the same sentiments have been expressed of every successive generation, and it’s basically bullshìt really. I see no reason to sugarcoat it for you seeing as you’re able to dish it out.

    Bullshit?

    To what exactly are you referring?

    The reality that Dublin city has been so poorly managed that we're now left with this purposeless feral scum using the streets as their own personal playground, terrorizing citizens and tourists and basically making a spectacle out of the locale which by rights, should be a prestigious and historic inner city environment?

    Is it this "bullshit" to which you're referring?

    Or the reality that the "parents" "responsible for" (using the word "responsible" for people like that just feels like the ultimate oxymoron) producing this situation, have every possible advantage in life as has been delineated - world class healthcare, free; inner city accommodation, free; transport, free; the equivalent of a substantial wage into their bank account every week, free; yet spit at the classes responsible for providing this for them?

    It seems clear they lack challenge or responsibility so they piss/moan and churn out babies they're incapable in every possible respect of providing for, and do their part in amplifying an already disastrous socio-economic situation.

    ......

    If these sentiments have been expressed for generations, then it's a poor reflection on both historical national culture and leadership, as it's basically proven to be long standing and glaring issue that no leader or politician has been truly capable of addressing.

    In physics we trust....... (as insanely difficult to decipher as it may be)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭Sugar_Rush


    It would appear you're unfamiliar with the concept of "development".

    The "Dublin'centric" nature of the Irish state is yet another unaddressed time bomb.

    Midlands towns like Longford and Athlone have massive untapped potential, extremely commuter friendly and are crying out for the absent development which stunts their growth.

    They're typically well equipped with clubs and amenities, and have their own allure and charm.

    No offence to Athlone, but it is not going to attract and retain the international youth.

    Yeah cause Ireland doesn't have a problem with skilled professionals leaving the country in droves already 😏

    And what drives their departure?

    Primarily housing, accommodation, or the reality that many working professionals in Dublin have to commute 1 to 2 hours each morning to get to work - all whilst having the pleasure of being spit upon by the social welfare beneficiaries and their umpteen delinquent children living in the city-center accommodation (for free) that said professionals would have to pay about 75% of their salary for, just to rent.

    In physics we trust....... (as insanely difficult to decipher as it may be)



  • Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭wangchung


    Things will never change whilst this Government is in power. McEntee is overseeing the collapse of the Dept of Justice. She is of the woke movement and is trying to play a safe game to enhance her career in politics so doesn't want to make any rash decisions that may hurt her future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,344 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    Completely sexist.

    The woman is in smart casual office attire, nice trousers, jumper and smart shoes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 261 ✭✭Fox Tail


    Athlone or Longford can support some small scale investment, sure.

    But they arent going to absorb large multinationals in any kind of number, because the large multinational employees dont want to be based there.

    They are invariably young and want to be in a city. the same way our youth move to london etc.

    Agreed that we need more housing but we need more housing everywhere in Ireland.

    Athlone doesnt have spare housing either.

    Longford is basically 1 street. There is nothing there and its alot of trouble from what i understand with fights etc? Open to correction there.

    The problems of D1 inner city are easily avoided by office workers. Dublin has office parks all over the city and most are in nice areas on the south side. A different world to D1.

    There is no need to go anywhere near O' Connell Street for most Dublin workers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭BaywatchHQ


    Yet this forum always tells us that Northern Ireland is a dangerous place. Dublin is the place giving the island a bad reputation now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    Post edited by cheese sandwich on


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭Sugar_Rush


    These are problems easily solved, and the entire purpose of "development" would be to cater to employees of said industries.

    What young workers want is nightlife and amenities (sports clubs, positive urban atmosphere), and a decent place to live that's safe and well resourced.

    Longford and Athlone have untold room for development and improvement in those areas.

    And I don't necessarily think young workers have some burning ambition to live in a built up city with God-awful commute times.

    They want to work-hard/play-hard, so a good night life and....... as above.

    In physics we trust....... (as insanely difficult to decipher as it may be)



  • Registered Users Posts: 261 ✭✭Fox Tail


    They are both way too small to attract large multi nationals.

    Longford is about 12000 people! its basically a village.

    Google and Meta alone have more staff in Dublin than Longford has people lol.

    And Athlone is only double the size of Longford. Its still very small.

    I agree nightlife is a draw but again, Dublin has so much more than any other place in Ireland in that regard.

    There are villages in Dublin with more restaurants and bars than Longford. Never mind the city centre.

    Does Longford even have a cinema?

    I think if you were looking to attract the big multi nationals outside of Dublin you can only really look to Galway, limerick or Cork. And even they are barely big enough.

    The IDA say it constantly. the big multi nationals generally only want Dublin, because thats where the 20 somethings want to be.

    Longford & Athlone have poor geography compared to Dublin also.

    If you are into sea swimming or water sports, mountain hikes or hill running etc, Dublin has all that.

    It also has all the best sporting facilities. Rock climbing walls, nstional athletics arena, basketball arena. dry ski slope etc.

    Longford and Athlone have fields.

    Dublin has those too. And the best parks in the country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,941 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    I'm honestly amazed the city has gotten away with the feckless approach to policing and justice for so long.

    Yeah it's embarrassing and may cost some tourists but it's the kick up the hole the government has needed and I hope there are more articles because it's deserved and it's the only way things will change.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,625 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,632 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I am glad they are actually warning tourists now. Dublin has been going downhill for many years but tourists are completely naive to that. Successive governments have dropped the ball here and it will be very difficult to fix.

    Rambo will be along now to tell us it's the tourists fault.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭buried


    Yeah, and in another 3 years time the excuse will be that the covid dramatics ended last year.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users Posts: 145 ✭✭beastfromtheEast


    Those who are trying to seriously injure or kill people for fun should face deadly force and in many countries they would.

    Police should never have to runaway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,941 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    “Through those gruelling lockdowns, all of their safe spaces were removed."




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,210 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    At minimum a good observation might be that many young people need, and usually lack, a third space or reliable access to one. The street ends up being their third place (which, happens a lot in Ireland, go play outside usually ends up being go play in the street of the estate etc. and then on), and eventually pubs and bars (the site of OP attack).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Maybe we should be looking at America for answers, bigger prisons, longer mandatory sentencing,and and give the Gardai the tools to deal with the dregs of society who can't or don't want to live in a civilized society



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,317 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    Am I the only person who hasnt been killed at least 20 times in Dublin?





  • Striking a balance - I think there is actually a good point in here. Make 6 months national service a requirement for all citizens going forward. At least these scrotes might learn some discipline.





  • Blank canvas, Rome wasn't built in a day. Dublin infrastructure wise is a spent force. Can't see metro North ever being built with all the challenges it seems to throw up. It's very hard for it to kick onwards. We are a tiny country comparatively speaking, we now have a good motorway network. It could be almost a central axis. Google, Microsoft et Al have a huge chunk of remote workers these days, I don't believe that's a major issue anymore.

    Look at the likes of Canberra, The Hague, Brasilia. Smaller capitals outside the main cities. Relocate administration centres and the rest will follow over time taking some of the pressure off Dublin.

    We can't keep loading onto Dublin - as it stands it is very far from attractive for international youth due to the accommodation shortages.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭Sugar_Rush


    Google and Meta alone have more staff in Dublin than Longford has people lol.

    I would be curious as to how many of those employees are Irish, and how many were brought in along with the firms.

    I simply don't buy into the idea "youth want to live in Dublin".

    They clearly don't.

    Like anyone, a good residence and being close to work are far more attractive than some notion of living in the "big smoke".

    Not to mention, the kind of revenue said companies have and provision for their employees they invest in, one would be confident they and the government could cater to whatever additional proximal needs are required, be it housing, social, sport facilities etc.

    In physics we trust....... (as insanely difficult to decipher as it may be)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 261 ✭✭Fox Tail


    youre quoting small towns as an alternative to Dublin though.

    Not a chance.

    Galway, Cork or Limerick are semi viable, but Dublin is still where the young with money want to be.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users Posts: 261 ✭✭Fox Tail


    Many arent irish, of course. Thats part of the Dublin charm. Buzz of the bars full of spanish, french. italians etc.

    I think youre looking at it from the wrong angle.

    If youre a 20 something on 140k a year, which is the average Google salary, you dont have a problem paying to live in Dublin.

    If you can easily afford it and youre that age and want to socialise, why would you not want to be in Dublin?

    It's a no brainer.

    The housing costs you refer to arent a barrier for those people, so they can afford to live near work, in nice areas and with the best of the nations entertainment, shopping, theatre, sport, restaurants, exhibitions, music, comedy, social events and groups, beaches, mountains and nightlife on their doorstep.

    You get what you pay for and Dublin is expensive for a reason. If you can afford it, its the best place in the country by far.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭Cordell


    What they lack is proper education and role models in their families. And when they will have children of their own same thing will happen unless the state steps in and breaks this vicious circle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭donaghs


    Dublin people have more space than ever. Until the tenements were cleared in the last century, a large family would share two rooms in an almost derelict Georgian house.

    Now large families are very rare, and it’s the norm for people, including in what we’re “working class” areas to have their own bedroom. The houses which replaced the tenements have their own gardens. The apartments which replaced them have open spaces (unlike most privately rented apartments).

    These areas tend to more public ally funded “community centres” and similar facilities. Going into the city centre looking for fun and trouble has always had an appeal for badly raised kids. But in recent years they’ve been pushing against the societal boundaries of acceptable behaviour, and discovering that the boundaries aren’t really there anymore.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭I see sheep




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭Adrift


    America as a rule of thumb is not to be used as any type of role model but when it comes to justice they largely make the punishment fit the crime. Lengthy sentences, Capital Punishment and The ability for the victims to read out their own impact statements in court. None of which exist in Ireland.


    Is it any more of a deterrent? Probably not but at the very least the victims largely feel justice has been served.


    The filth that assaulted that American tourist will probably get 12-18 months in oberstown. With half suspended for good behaviour. Sure one of our brilliant judges has already approved a sleepover for one of them. Let that sink in, a sleepover.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,222 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    The attackers will serve a few months at the most and have nothing to fear from the court and they know it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,222 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    When Brunker was in Finglas it was a 10 minute walk to see dairy cows, remember her on TV talking about going with friends picking blackberries.


    Chalk and cheese difference.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,269 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I wouldn't be looking towards the madness that is the US, but how about some of our closer European peers? I could see French and Spanish police battering the likes of this scum off the streets.



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