COYGIG - Women’s Football World Cup 23 **Mod Warning in Post #58**

Well in my opinion the table and standings don't lie. That's where we are at. You can't be unlucky in 3 games.

Yes but we had a brilliant defence in all those tournaments, particularly 88 and 90.

It was a freak goal, and even if we are now randomly disregarding own goals, not more than Canada scored.

that goal was a total fluke. only ended up in the net because of a bad mistake by the keeper.

What were you expecting, out of curiosity? Lost by a goal to the 7th and 10th ranked teams, drew with the 40th ranked team who beat 7th. Ireland are 22nd, in case you’re not aware.

I am aware, thanks. Do you think bottom of the group with one point and one goal is ‘good’?

Outbelieve? I believe they are out.

Yeah I’ve also been following them - you keep alluding to this knowledge that you seem to think I don’t have 🙂

My expectations were also low, and it was definitely a tough group. Effort was great, but tournaments hinge on results rather than input unfortunately, and if we are calling bottom of the group with one point ‘good’, which was my initial point, then we are doing the team no favours really. If you disagree on that prognosis, then fair enough

It sounds like we’re on a similar train of thought, I completely agree with not patronising them with OTT plaudits. But I also think they performed as well as their ability allowed. The squad is very limited which is why Pauw didn’t go to her bench until the last 10 minutes today. She wanted a result badly and wasn’t in the mood to chuck players on for token caps. I respect that.

I won’t be running them down given ability, group difficulty, and all the games were close (in scoreline at least). Of course there’s room for critique and that’s very important after any tournament where you fail to progress. Was it good? Not really. Acceptable? For me it was.

In fairness.

they bagged 1 point out of 9.

they scored 1 goal in around the total of 290 - 300 minutes of football they played.

they finished bottom of the group.

I think it’s acceptable to say regardless of ranking or experience coming into the tournament, the expectation was that we / they might do a little better….

so can these white knights quit jumping down the throats of those who might want to discuss that negative….

the team was lauded, praised, celebrated, encouraged and complimented when they qualified… now it’s time for fair reflection…. It wasn’t a good tournament for them… the table doesn’t lie, you get zero points for effort unfortunately. It’s a results business…. The result is 1 point, 1 goal and bottom of the table… 🤌🏻

From the Irish Times:

I don’t really understand this, but are the women so beyond reproach that we celebrate when they ignore their manager?

I don't think Pauw will get another contract.

Now that the Girls in Green have experienced a World Cup competition, it will create the incentive to raise their standards even more and qualify for further tournaments! COYGIG💚

A fairly accurate summary. They were as poor as our mens team have been in any of the competitions they have qualified for apart from euro 2012. But this wasn't much better. The standard going forward for our womens game has to be qualifying for tournaments like this. They are capable of doing that. The lesson here has to be that once you get to the tournament the standard of opposition improves drastically.

A fresh face is probably needed in the dugout now going forward. Vera has done well to get the to qualify but she has other stuff she needs to address.

Not sure who could replace her. Has to be a better tactician than Vera as I felt some of here game management and approach was poor. Now she'd argue that it was the players who weren't up to executing the game plan. But for the most the plan and approach seemed to be route 1 and back to front as quickly as possible.

A very tough group.

Our first World Cup.

The manager has received not enough support, she will be off somewhere else to a country that will appreciate her.

And then when we end up just like the mens team, hopeless and with no sponsor, stupid people will wonder why.