COYGIG - Women’s Football World Cup 23 **Mod Warning in Post #58**

The mens teams have a decent record in tournaments apart from 2012. They made it out of their group in every world cup qualification which is more than Scotland can say. Probably not fair to compare the mens and womens teams as womens football is so far behind. It was a major achievement for the women to qualify and they did reasonably well for their first tournament.

Agree. The men had 100 years (1882) of playing international soccer behind them before they even got to a World Cup in 1990.

The women have been playing competitive international soccer since 1982.

Perspective required.

But it wasn't a bad tournament for them either, far from it. A bad tournament would be Ireland at Euro 2012 : three defeats, nine goals conceded and only one scored.

Bull.

I won't be on O'Connell Street or wherever it is.

That is my choice. You don't have to be either.

If people feel they want to do it, go ahead, they are celebrating what the team has achieved in their view.

I didn't say anything about Roy Keane's 'dislike of celebrating mediocrity'. I don't like Keane's uncompromising arrogance in fact.

That is a simple statement of fact. I didn't agree with them, one way or another.

Many did find it embarassing.

Many will find whatever homecoming for girls is organised 'embarassing' and you will 'think we had won something' just like when they turned out in their many thousands for Jack's teams.

Also fact.

But many will not find it the least embarassing and turn up to show their appreciation. Fully entitled to, and good luck to them. I won't be there but so what.

Yes, And O'Neill was driven out as well. He got us to a finals and a playoff.

How did that work out for us ???

We cant beat Lux or Armenia.

The idea that Katie McCabe has tried to overrule Vera Pauw has come from 1 person only - Vera Pauw.

All Pauw had to do during the press conference is what virtually every experienced manager would do in that situation; immediately extinguish any idea of conflict. A simple reply of "It was nothing" and the press don't have their story.

I don't know whether it was very poor judgement or a pre-meditated attempt to take the gloss away from the performances of our most impressive player but she really has hung Katie out to dry by suggesting that Katie has targeted her own teammate for substitution.

At the elite level of team sport these sort of conversations must always stay within camp. When they don't there's usually trouble afoot.

What else could the players say? The journalists were just trying to stir up trouble by asking them about the manager.

McCabe has clearly got too big for her boots by trying to get a team mate subbed. A touch of Keane's arrogance, I fear.

Careful what you wish for. When players can decide who is or who is not the manager you are in serious trouble.

Maybe If Ireland defended better like pauw wanted them to do they could have gone into last game on two points knowing a win against Nigeria could have seen them through to second round.

Mccabe especially is one of the most overrated soccer players, but the reality is she is not even Irelands best player. That's Denise osullivan by a country mile.

Mccabe is a left wing back, she is not a good enough defender to play left full back and she is not creative enough to play left wing. Arsenal think the same. Over inflated ego.

McCabe would really want to give the head a wobble. What an arrogant toe rag she's turning into. You simply do not carry on like that , trying to get someone substituted . She's so far up her own hole it's become embarrassing

All top sportsmen and women will come across as arrogant when they are trying to get any edge whatsoever to win.

The only reason that you think / know that McCabe was trying to get someone substituted is that Vera Pauw has broken a very important rule; one that is vital for team cohesion.

What is said within the team stays within the team.

No better way to destroy team cohesion than to announce in a major press conference that 1 player wanted another one substituted. This is information that the public were not privy to. Whether or not it is true, it has turned some people against Ireland's best player of the tournament, it has openly embarrassed another player (Farrelly) and I can't imagine the damage it has done within the camp and the friendship groups of both players.

Even if it was accidental, it's still not the way I'd expect an experienced international manager to behave.

She's like many female sports people; Know she can say anything she likes without the fear of anyone questioning her and if someone does she's just use the sexism card.

There was the home championships and Olympics and that was it. Ireland won the Home Championships.