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Mod control of Tubridy payment Thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,677 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    You're only saying that because you get away with blue murder on the thread. You get caught telling bare face lies on a continual basis. I would even suggest you are a compulsive liar with your sole aim being to get people banned. And there is some very dodgy behaviour from your automatic likers. It's as if ye are colluding to bait people. "To be honest" there is no honour in your posting and you come across as (a) bitter and (b) fake. I hope for your sake it's only a Boards persona. I suspect the mods actually see through your duplicitous/dishonest nature but you do just enough to avoid a ban.

    Report that.

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    Mod Warning: 1 point warning applied for ignoring moderator instuction

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    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,478 ✭✭✭blackbox


    I don't have a problem with Beasty banning the Sinead O'Connor discussion from that thread in order to keep it more focused on the money, but it might have been diplomatic for him to suggest that someone could start a thread called "Ryan Tubridy plays the sympathy card".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,429 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Yep some clarity would be welcome.

    In the CA Sinead OConnor thread there is discussion about criticism of some of the reactions and interviews such as Bob Geldofs. Not having a go at Sir Bob or the posters. Just pointing out the inconsistency.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,495 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    There are two posters in particular who are a **** blight on the forums, that was just another thread in a long list of threads that they have destroyed with their re-reg trolling. Everybody knows who they are, nobody understands why they are allowed to peddle their bullshit.





  • Just to make the point (as a mod) that re reg detection has become much more difficult on vanilla

    admins (or Mike) are very cautious when banning suspected re reg because there is no prison forum (and therefore it’s harder to appeal). So if someone’s banned genuinely unfairly they haven’t any easy recourse to take like before with prison forum.

    This is my understanding as far as re reg goes and why they’re more noticeable and it might look like we’re doing nothing. Usually if nothings been done it’s because there’s no links



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    Indeed, if he was right that’s it’s not related, but that’s just a small part of the problem. And a general symptom of the constant abrasive attitude towards posters.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    But shur tis plain as day Alicia Gifted Stick. It has literally been going on for several years.





  • I know what you mean but it’s no secret the mod tools ain’t what they used to be (I perish the thought of being a mod pre migration) and I can’t say I disagree for a moment with the admins POV on the matter

    if I was the one pulling the trigger on a suspected re reg, knowing they have no easy way to plead their case if I’m wrong I would be very, very careful about doing so

    it’s something all of the admins and mods seem to be keenly aware of as well (that is posters are rather fed up of trolls); but as I’ve said 100 times for as many trolls we have there are too many posters getting sucked into the trolling themselves by responding to it.

    I know it’s hard to do but I beg you all no matter where you’re posting please if you see someone and you’re convinced they’re a re reg troll, stop, don’t engage & report to the admins via RP function. If you talk to them they will not go away.

    If they get attention they’ll keep coming back. Doubly true if they know they’re getting under your skin.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    Well, my own perfectly reasonable and polite contribution formerly on the first page of this thread has been deleted without explanation.

    A baby thrown out with the bath water of the trolls and sock puppets calling people "cancer", "scumbag" and "liar".

    Moderation by personal whim rather than charter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭hawley


    The problem is that some of these posters seem to be reporting everything and they are being taken seriously by the mod. They seem to be able to dictate how a thread is run. I'm genuinely befuddled as to how they seem to have so much power. Even looking at this thread, some of the posts that are left up are far worse than posts that were removed. There are posts containing personal attacks against ButtersSuki and they are just left up. It's almost like they're an organised group.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭hawley


    I'm just after seeing that they've snipped those comments. They were there when I last looked.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's as RUDE to just delete posts and say nothing. Very frustrating. The thread announcing Sinead's death - it got absolutely butchered. Now obviously there's nothing wrong with removing the blatant dick comments mocking her mental health, but even very anodyne "why do you think that?" kinda things got the chop. I think sometimes they just do it for the sake of it.





  • I don’t think it’s fair to say any posters use RP to sway the direction of a thread or discussion. It’s fair to say they certainly try in my experience.

    Meaning I’ve often been going over the reported posts and you’ll see every now and then what’s a clear attempt to silence opposing POV’s.

    With some people “trolling” is just a synonym for “they think differently to me” that said the mods have enough wherewithal to know the difference.

    I’m almost sure I’ve probably fallen for it in my earlier days but I will read and study the other mods to get a better understanding of how to approach situations I am unfamiliar with & I can be confident I’ve never seen anything like what you’re describing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭CGI_Livia_Soprano
    Holding tyrants to the fire


    Honestly I think most of the moderators and admins are doing a great job, despite the limitations of the platform and (I am choosing my words very carefully here) the obvious piss-taking by certain users regarding what is acceptable posting. I lost my temper at the latter yesterday, and for that I apologise sincerely.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,045 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Do people really believe the mods just action posts because “someone” reports it? If a rule hasn’t be broken the mods can’t take action.

    It always amazes me that the ones who complain most about the moderation are the ones who just can’t play by the rules. You don’t bet bans, or warnings, just for having a crap “opinion”. You get them for breaking rules.

    The mods, and admins, are the only ones keeping this place together. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve had my fair share of “scoldings” from the mods and, while I might have felt hard done by, I’ve rarely challenged them because it’s clear I’ve broken a rule.

    There seems to be a cohort of excessively angry posters who can’t believe for a second that someone might not think the same, odious, way they do and they accuse them of “trolling”. These same users then go apeshít when they get sanctioned for breaking a rule after losing their temper.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis





  • for as many people who reckon they’ve been done over there’s awful few DRP’s to go along with them.

    None of us are out to get anyone because the fact is we’re here to help keep things smooth. Besides that, we’d be demodded flat if we did & DRP would sort out the rest.

    We’re here to enforce rules not pick on posters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭HBC08


    It's seems fairly obvious that a small handful of posters are ruining threads.

    No biggie there really,people can be strange online but why is this being not only tolerated but facilitated?

    Why are posters being banned when the same 2 or 3 posters remain and continue to contribute nothing and bait more reasonable contributors.

    It's weird.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,692 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    I've found Beasty to be pretty fair in his hammering - s/he doesn't have time to read every post in every thread that is reported so can only make an educated guess (I would assume) on who to ban/when to give warnings etc. I remember the Covid thread where he was modding it and it was manic with the amount of posts every day. I guess better to play safe than let the lunatics run the asylum

    If people feel hard done by then maybe they should take a look at the tone of the post they were making, not to say some people fly very close to the line in the manner of their posting.



  • Administrators Posts: 54,125 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    @[Deleted User] @CGI_Livia_Soprano @Pintman Paddy Losty @EmmetSpiceland

    While we appreciate the positive sentiment regarding the wider modding, I think you've made your point now (today and yesterday). This thread is specifically about some decisions in the RTE Tubridy thread, don't drag it into a generic them vs us argument again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,045 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Apologies, awec, but Big Bag of Chips posted “This is a Feedback thread. Feedback specifically of Boards.ie and moderation.”

    So when other users then started criticising the moderation, in general, I posted regarding that but it could also be applied to the Tubridy thread where, I felt, users were getting annoyed for getting warned for not following the site “rules”.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Administrators Posts: 54,125 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Yea and now you've given your feedback and it has been received. I am unconvinced that you're not trolling this thread, and while I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt for now, I won't if you keep trying to drag this thread into a them vs us argument again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    Why not have a thumbs up and thumbs down button like Reddit? If a post gets disproportionately downvoted then it gets minimized. To open it you need to be a registered user and understand that the post likely won't meet the forum charter/will contain swear words etc.

    We are all adults - this idea that posts need to remain "unseen" because they don't meet the morals or the politics of a select few is ridiculous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,240 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Don't agree with that.

    There are always threads where a poster that goes against the prevailing narrative doesn't get thanked.

    Does not mean that their opinion or post is not valuable or relevant to the discussion.

    In fact it may be invaluable or else the discussion is just an echo chamber .

    We are all adults but there is a strong element of tribalism in appreciation of some posters' views over others.

    Thats why fair modding is valuable here .

    TLDR : Down voting and removing posts by popularity would be unfair to posters who follow the rules but are not expressing opinions that are popular .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,429 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    As noted, the mods have done a lot of thankless work on the fast moving Tubridy thread dealing with re-regs and bad faith actors. It would be remiss not to mention that.

    They get the calls right vast majority of the time, in my view at least.

    In recognising that, I think the posts on this thread indicate that a second look is warranted at the action re: discussion of Tubridy's media commentary of Sinead O'Connors death.

    It would have been more reasonable imo to say something like... Posters have expressed their views\unease\defences of Tubridy's reaction from both opposing views. But it will drag the thread down a rabbit hole. And draw a line under it going forwards.

    But that is not the messaage that was communicated.

    And even with that, it should imo be permissible on the thread to reference the Irish Times article in discussions of 'rehabilitation' by the media of Tubridy with a view to his returning to RTE.

    The thread must have been one of the most active threads during the PAC hearings. It was Boards at its best and it would be a very negative sign for the future of Boards if such threads are lost. The vast majority of the posters on the thread are sincerely and reasonably contributing to the thread - and others. I think they understand the need for clear and reasonable modding in guiding that debate. But obvious bad faith actors and re-regs should be dealt with differently. I hope - and I think they are - that the mods are aware of the concerted effort on the thread by such actors to bait and get banned longtime posters, and to shut down the debate.

    And also, it would be good to clarify if any further discussion of Tubridy's reaction is permissible on CA or elsewhere. Bearing in mind on the CA Sinead O'Connor thread there is commentary on unease at reactions in the media to her tragic death.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    You haven't apologised to me. Throwing out a generic apology without addressing it to the to posters you hurled your vile and hateful rage at is not an apology.

    I agree on one thing you've said however: the posting by certain pro-Turbridy posters is complete piss-taking. As is their constant praising and brown-nosing of the moderators, which is unbelievably transparent and I do hope the mods can see through it - as clearly many can judging by some of the posts since you've collectively starting doing this.

    To describe your calling me (and another poster) lying scumbags, doxxers, and cancers is far beyond the pale on what constitutes acceptable behaviour. How you are still ion this site let alone this thread after saying those things is truly a mystery.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    This is once again aimed at me. Let me be 100% clear on this - I have NEVER doxxed anyone, or attempted to, on this or any other site.

    No matter how many times you say this, it is simply not true.



  • Administrators Posts: 54,125 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    IMO the Reddit model of upvote/downvote is more geared toward hobby/group subreddits than discussion based content that you'd find in forums like Current Affairs. It's designed for groups of like-minded people, not groups of differing views. The result is that most subreddits are echo chambers. r/Ireland is an example of this, lots of good threads don't reach their full potential there because the majority will simply downvote any minority view into oblivion.

    Boards has many issues, it's not perfect, but all posts here have at least got an equal chance of being seen. If you don't like someone's content, put them on your ignore list.



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    Missing the point - this is about people whose tone *isn't* unpleasant, they just don't have the approved views.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭satguy


    Calling someone a Troll or just saying that you are Trolling a thread, is too easy,, its a catch all phrase used to silence a poster if you don't like what he has to say.

    When concerned parents demonstrate outside asylum centres ,, the MSM like to call them "right wing extremists" ,, they are not,, they just have something to say.

    So not all posters are Trolls,, just concerned Boardies with something to say.



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  • Administrators Posts: 54,125 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    This is not the topic of this thread. Do not drag this thread in that direction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,429 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I am trying to keep this general about moderation of the Tubridy thread rather than accuse any one side of particular conduct. But mods please delete if not on topic enough.

    Not all posters warranting mod action are trolls.

    For me the key point is the sincerity of the concern.

    Even within 'trolls' there are different sub species.

    All of them have manifested on the Tubridy thread.

    The blatant obvious re-reg troll out to abuse other posters and\or moderators and get thread shut down. The mods have been on top of these on the Tubridy thread at cost \ effort to themselves.

    The insidious low level trolls who make bad faith arguments, insincerely post, trying to bait \ get a reaction from a sincere poster. They are 'playing the man not the ball'. They are like a defender in sports trying to get the opposition's star forward sent off, with niggling antagonistic behaviour trying to stay below referee's radar. The star player reacts and the ref sees it. A mod would have to be following the thread pretty closely to spot this. I think the mods should be tougher with such 'niggling' conduct when they become aware of it. It is all over CA, not just the Tubridy thread.

    The 'benign' sort who are more like wind up \ satirical merchants who post something they don't believe to get a reaction, but not directed at any particular poster or deliberately trying to antagonise them. That has its place on AH if done right but on CA it can derail the thread especially where posters think it is serious and respond. On the Tubridy thread, these have gradually been dealt with.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Administrators Posts: 14,406 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    @ButtersSuki @CGI_Livia_Soprano @EmmetSpiceland take your dispute elsewhere. This is not the place for it.

    Do not post in this thread again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,572 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    The trolling is very obvious on the Tubridy thread, everyone should just ignore it and treat it like "a nothing burger".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭HBC08


    I agree.

    I suppose my question is why the 3 posters (two of which have the exact same posting style,grammar,turn of phrase and raging anger) be held to different standards to everybody else?

    My other question is why a mod can't see this when it's blatant?

    Ps,I'm not accusing anybody of having multiple accounts because apparently that's not allowed so just to be clear.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    And other posters too in fairness. There's seven or eight overall. The impunity they enjoy is mindblowing. And surprise... they're all very leftwing - or pretend to be - politically.

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,708 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    We have a thread where posters can express condolences following the death of Sinead O’Connor. RIP threads are supposed to be just that. Somewhere to focus on the positives, but not one for wider debate of someone’s life. There is a particular sensitivity for any Irish person who dies as friends and/or family may read comments on here. Hence in the aftermath we do not allow such thread to stray beyond those condolences/RIPs (and that was following a Feedback thread about RIP threads quite a few years ago)

    That death was reported on the evening of 26 July. Three days later we started getting reports from the thread about users using the death of Sinead O’Connor to attack Tubridy. We also had reports of posters just posting about her death without the context of the Tubridy article. A lot of posts responded to such posts and by the time I got to those reports there were pages of stuff mentioning O’Connor mainly in the context of Tubridy’s comments. Again I took the view that this was undignified given her death had only recently been announced and I thought they were the sort of comments that may not be appreciated by those close to her. Hence I introduced a blanket ban on discussing her in the thread given in my view people were using his reaction to her death to “take potshots” at Tubridy.

    Here are some examples from posts I deleted

    “Like George Michael I would say we will hear more stories like this about sinead”

    “I cannot believe the amount of coverage Sinead’s death is getting in the Uk. I didn’t appreciate she was such a significant figure. There was a piece on a radio 4 program yesterday, another just now on Loose Ends and seemingly an obituary on another radio 4 program tomorrow. Plus all the newspaper coverage.

    I’ve learnt so much about her over the last few days, heard about so many kind deeds. I know her family will have a different take on it though. Sad.”

    “RTs attempt at a comeback "song"....Nothing Compares to Me...it's been 7 hours and 15 days, since you took my Renault away...I could put my arms around every toy I see...Tally Ho, because I'm worth it.”

    “It was obvious that he was going to use her death as a way of trying to get back into public life.”

    “She obviously wasn’t too well at that point. Bipolar is a dreadful illness.”

    “Sinead was perfect foil for him on the LLS. She did live her life like an open wound and the mixture of religion and mental health issues was bread and butter stuff for Tubridy. More so than other celebrities, she was certainly someone he COULD have had some sort of acquaintance with outside of RTE....

    But I still think this is a ploy to massage his reputation. It's far too convenient. Especially when you know what a disingenous little twit he is.”

    “Breathtaking development here with Tubridy blatantly seeking to capitalise on the premature death of an Irish icon to kick-start his rehabilitation.

    “How likely is it that the claimed phone call from Sinead O Conner ever happened?

    I can only imagine the ailing star had far more pressing concerns in her final weeks than the downfall of the Toyman. The only interaction I know of between them is an awkward interview in which Tubridy's misogyny bobs to the surface. There was not the warmth of friendship between them.

    I believe he is lying.

    Whether or not he is, it remains a tawdry, cynical media maneuver.” 


    And I could go on, but equally I would have preferred not to have had to repeat those comments here. I do not believe this is the time

    After posting that warning people continued to post and respond to posts that were referencing O’Connor. A lot of posts referring to Sinead O’Connor’s death were deleted by myself, along with other posts that were attacking/discussing other posters. Which were not only off topic but they were uncivil. And they were coming from “both sides” of the Tubridy discussion. We also had posters trying to discuss the Justice Minister rather than Tubridy

    I took the view that a strict warning was needed to stop people continuing to attack other posters which was behind my second warning. Yes I threatened to close the thread, but that resulted in posters actually heeding the warning. In practice I would have probably threadbanned posters who continued to post “off topic”.

    Now I have said repeatedly when people complain about my modding that I do not get everything right - no-one does, and in most cases we are talking shades of grey. My view is I get more on the “right” side of things than on the “wrong” side. Clearly some who have posted in this thread disagree, but equally threads like this will always attract people who feel they have something to complain about.

    In summary, I thought it inappropriate to allow the thread to turn into a discussion of Sinead O’Connor or other users or indeed other public figures such as the Justice Minister. Yes my warnings may have appeared a little harsh, but in my experience on this site those sort of warnings tend to work. In this case it certainly did and the discussion has continued with far fewer reports being received



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,572 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    The below seems positive?

    “I cannot believe the amount of coverage Sinead’s death is getting in the Uk. I didn’t appreciate she was such a significant figure. There was a piece on a radio 4 program yesterday, another just now on Loose Ends and seemingly an obituary on another radio 4 program tomorrow. Plus all the newspaper coverage.

    I’ve learnt so much about her over the last few days, heard about so many kind deeds. I know her family will have a different take on it though. Sad.”



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,708 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    What has that got to do with Tubridy and RTE?

    If it was posted in the RIP thread then fine, but that sort of post just takes a thread in a different direction. Whether positive or negative these posts were deleted from the Tubridy thread



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Personally I quite agree that the Sinead O’Connor RIP thread was not a fit place to raise the issue of Ryan Tubridy. And has been pointed out, neither is really this one, as it's more concerned with moderation of Tubridy payments thread, so I likely crossed a line in raising a point about him here.

    There is however one long and busy thread on Tubridy's €345K payments etc. Surely that is/was the place to raise the issue of Mr.Tubridy appearing to use the unfortunate death of Sinead to his own ends. But that thread was also heavily cut as far as I can see, with numerous posts removed and a warning from Beasty etc.

    So you'd have to ask, where is the appropriate thread on which to discuss this matter? Not on the RIP thread, not this one and apparently not on the payments thread. It's baffling Beasty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,572 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    I'd argue that Tubridy’s tribute positing himself as a friend of Sinéad when his reputation is in tatters could be viewed as an attempt to rehabilitate his image. A post about Sinéad would fit in with that conversation.

    I don't understand the insistence of keeping threads on topic, it doesn't happen in normal conversation which flows from one topic to the next and back again. I always imagine someone standing up in middle of a conversation and screaming "WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOOTBALL DON'T MENTION RUGBY!" when I see this.



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,708 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    If someone had raised it in a few weeks time I would not have seen an issue. However nothing has been released about cause of death. No funeral has taken place. Friends and family may read stuff here. In my own view we are not yet at a stage where it should become part of a discussion about a completely different individual. There are plenty of things that continue to be discussed in that thread without any reference to her death



  • Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It was one of over 40 tributes in the Times supplement. It was used as petrol to keep the outrage bonfire going for the last few stragglers. It was using O’Connor’s death for personal advantage ironically enough. To any causal reader or contributor you could see how nasty and unhinged it was. Like message boards aren’t exactly known for nuance and measured debate, but a lot of those comments went past any sort of acceptable line.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    All I've taken from this thread is that we can all now call other Boards users lying scumbags and maybe get a warning or, at a push, a threadban. Fun times ahead for Boards.ie!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,495 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Another forum I used to post on had a definition for Threadshitting:

    Threadshitting is belittling the topic or the people discussing it. It typically takes the form of a dismissive comment, like “Who cares?” or “This is stupid!” or similar. The implication of the threadshitter is that discussion of such a topic is beneath them, and should be beneath everybody else. If you really do think that a discussion is inane or pointless, the appropriate thing to do is to not participate in it.

    If the mods want to improve the quality of the Tubridy thread then they could do worse than address the poster who has seemingly made it his mission to piss all over other people trying to discuss a topic. Just like he has done many, many times before.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Well then, with respect Beasty - maybe you should amend post #88 on this thread and/or elsewhere - to advise that there shall be NO discussion at all of Mr.Tubridy's views on the late Sinead O'Connor. That his article in the IT should be completely disregarded here and not for public discourse on boards.

    That would be clearer and more honest?

    I note that #94 above continues to raise the topic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,429 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    So there is nowhere at this time on Boards that it can be commented on that Ryan Tubridy - off the air because of the payments scandal - was chosen by a major national newspaper to write an article about someone's passing? An article in which they make mention of their recent 'issues'?

    If Tubridy himself won't wait a few weeks to start bringing up such points - and he directly referenced his recent issues - it seems strange to me to expect that standard on social media.

    And how this might relate to a media 'rehabilitation' campaign to put him back in spotlight in a more favourable light?

    And how posters feel uneasy about that.


    Bearing in mind e.g. the Christy Dignam RIP thread discussed unease at Dave Fanning's comments. So no comment would be allowed on Boards for weeks of such comments, even though it is being discussed in other media outlets?

    And the Sinead O'Connor RIP thread discussed unease at Bob Geldof's comments and concerns raised by Lily Allen about 'spineless' tributes.

    If there is some set rule about only allowing condolences \ memories and not discussing anything else in the short term after a death, I don't see much evidence of it.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,294 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    The tubridy thread was being used as a vehicle by certain actors to air grievances unrelated and preexisting to the payments issue and hijacked for that purpose.


    Beasty's moderation was balanced imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,603 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    DRP is mostly a circling of the wagons sham, especially when it comes to a dispute involving an admin.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101




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