Kilkenny GAA Thread

the more i read some of the excuses for losing the more laughable they become

we lost leauge final we lost to wexford and all ireland final due to players gone past it or not good enough .

your manager no experience of managing a senior team and some of his decisions were baffling

trying to blame our fitness nothing wrong with it against galway or clare in last 10 min

nothing wrong with butler lawlor mullins even tj back helping out

we lost because we had to many players on the team not up to it and these players had showing the not up to it or there day had past them

i could see it last january and all people could say to me i did not know what i was talking about funnily enough everything i said came true

all i read now this lad not up to it this lad gone past it we not fit enough we not fit enough no matter how fit you are you have to have the skill

billy ryan one of the fittest and has pace has being very poor mossy run all day cant pass the ball fogarty one of the fittest players in the country gone past it buckley and padraig the same and walter skill level very poor

some one said nicky brennan said we took eye off ball i have talked to people highly involved in squads for years and they all say the same it was more important that you big and strong than what skill level you had this came from the top now we pay the price

i think the greatest example of this was blanchfield cody did not think he strong enough but conor browne was he might of being but i know who i would have on my team

i know we will never know but last year if blanchfield had being picked from start he done more than browne did in the few minutes he on

so you can all say i mad i all ready know that but anything i have put forward i have giving my reasons why

i dont know how anybody can judge young shine .

he has done some great things in his development so far i would be judging him with kierans that is where i would see him he seems to have done very well for the boro and to say he gone as far as he can what a joke only time will tell

i said i would have adrian mullin center back on my teaam all i got back was ffs your centre back has to dominate our centre back at the moment cant to that he was destroyed by cian lynch mullin excellent under high ball very strong in the tackle excellent delivery of ball both long and short great reader off the game he played more as a half back than half forward under cody can take a score from distance consistently all great teams need a dominate center back and i have no doubt he would do a fine job

you can build up a skillful hurler and i have no doubt there is plenty of them in kilkenny just pick them plenty of paul phelan out there

I agree entirely. He's had his day.

As someone alluded to Martin Fogarty would have a lot to offer on the skills front just because they are of a certain vintage does not mean they are finished wise heads some of those remarks were ageism at its best I was just saying he would still have a lot to offer look at Pat Gilroy on the line last Sunday are you trying to tell me he wouldn’t know his stuff.

When I said, he had his day, what I meant was his methods had its day. From listening to him been interviewed he doesn't have any time for "modern hurling" and seems to crave for the old days of hurling. Unfortunately it ain't going to go back in time for the foreseeable future, therefore we've got to move on or stay stuck in the past and win nothing.

Ah yeah of course, when it comes to the fundamentals or coaching the basic skills of the game there’s no better man for sure.

Only because ye didn't get far enough for that.

It's more than just skills now thou. It's skills and how they apply in a game situation.

We were watching a Kilkenny player at that for years & I don’t remember Kilkenny supporters complaining about the lack of manliness then

Does anyone have a schedule of club championship dates once the leagues are completed? KK People says Senior Final to be played on the 29/10. Many thanks in advance.

That's great. Thanks.

If possible this weekend posters should buy the program and whatever game/games they are at circle the best players on both teams and see what we could come up with. It would be interesting to see and hear a wide range of opinions.

I don't know how they are appointed but Ned Quinn's son is one so go figure

So group A is

Ballyhale

Bennettsbridge

Erins Own

Glenmore

Graigue Ballycallan

James Stephens

Group B is

Clara

Danesfort

Dicksboro

O'Loughlin Gaels

Mullinavat

Tullaroan

Friday at 7pm starts with

The Bridge v Comer

The Village v GBC

Saturday

2pm

Ballyhale v Glenmore

4pm

Clara v Boro

Sunday

12.30pm

The Fort v MullinaVegas

3pm

Tullaroan v OLG

New managements

Ballyhale unchanged

The Bridge have lost Willie Maher obviously but held onto Dan the man and brought in Richie Doyle can't remember the name of the manager

Erins Own and Glenmore don't know

GBC new man can't remember his name

The Village the big BC

Clara and Danesfort don't know but think unchanged

Boro unchanged

OLG Brian Hogan

Mullinavat and Tullaroan unchanged as far as I know.

Group B on last year's form is the harder group but it rarely plays out that way. The Bridge we're hugely impressive to start the year but faded away. They'll be hoping for a stronger showing with the talent they have.

Ballyhale will probably not start hurling till the later stages as usual. They are missing a host of players this year which would have to give the other teams hope, Ronan Corcoran, Brian Cody, Joey Cuddihy, Joey Holden and possibly Colin Fennelly. I think there are a few more missing too but that's a third of a starting team but someone is still going to have to go out and take them down. Still the favourites by a way.

Comer, Glenmore and GBC I would expect to be in the middle to bottom half of the table with GBC or Comer the most likely from this side to end up in relegation.

The Village will be an interesting prospect under Cody. They will be hard for any team to beat but do they have enough to go far in the championship.

Clara have a nice few players coming and are always tough to beat, they don't know when to give up.

Danesfort newly promoted would likely be happy with staying up I assume. I know their missing one or two of their good forwards from last year like Jack Bruton. Hogan and Murphy aren't getting any younger they've a good defence but the top end of the field might be the challenge.

The Boro should be challenging and have plenty of talent to do so but rarely produce it when the drums start beating as friend of mine says. If they get everyone on the field they should have one of the stronger teams but can or will they do it when needed.

OLG under Hogan should be interesting to see what style he has them playing. If Hogan gets the player's on side then they can go far in the championship.

Vegas are a big strong and hard team and I'd expect mid to top table if they have everyone on board. Their issue starts when teams play around them very dangerous on their day and take a lot of beating but usually lack the consistency to go far.

Tullaroan had a great mix last year and they have huge heart and massive pride in the jersey and listening to Tommy Walsh every night at training it would be little wonder. Tommy's legs are gone a few years now but he'll always give his best. Gearóid Dunne is a great new talent for them allied with Mossy and Shane Walsh they'll cause every team trouble. Padriag and Martin Walsh in the back 8 along with Tommy Walsh they'll keep it tight for all opposition.

Ballyhale clear favourites still (until they're actually knocked out)

Boro, OLG, The Village and Tullaroan lead the chasing pack. Without seeing them so far I'd say that Tullaroan could be the contenders.

The Bridge, Clara, Glenmore and Vegas in the next group and wouldn't be surprised if any went on a run.

Two of Danesfort, GBC and Comer likely in a relegation final.

This weekend predictions without seeing any games up to now is almost impossible but I'll take a shot.

I'll go with

The Bridge beating Comer

The Village beating GBC

Boro beating the Clara (I'm not biased 🤔)

Glenmore beating Ballyhale

Mullinavat beating the Fort

OLG beating Tullaroan.

Is Shamrocks v Glenmore changed to Sunday? It was down for Saturday in fixtures