General British politics discussion thread

Looks like they are going for the anti-Green vote as well.

Went looking to see if there has ever been a GE swing that big and the only one was 1931 where both the Labour and Liberal parties split. Election could be as much as 18 months away so plenty of time for polls to tighten.

I think the Conservatives are now just shoring up their base to avoid James Goldsmith style spoiler candidates. As for Labour I just don't sense the enthusiasm needed for them to sweep the board.

Yup. Labour are absolutely cruising to victory at the next election with a single-party majority, and the behaviour of the Tories makes it very clear that they fully accept this and do not see it changing. Not only are the polls and the bookies' odds pointing very strongly in this direction, but there's also this consideration; if the Tories were to be returned to office at the next election, that would be for the fifth election in a row. No UK political party of any stripe has ever achieved this. Does the delusional, psychopathic rabble that currently constitutes the Tory party look like an outfit that could win this historic accolade from a country that is plainly sick and tired of them?

Obviously there'll still be many people who will vote Conservative no matter what - there always will. But with the quaintly crapulous UK electoral system, "many people" isn't enough to prevent an electoral bloodbath - The Tories got 30.8% in 1997, well ahead of where they are now, but they lost more than half their seats.

And, as for your friends who voted Tory, now regret it, and likely won't vote next time — Labour will be happy with that. One vote less for the Tories is one vote less that they have to win.

What's weird about Sunak is that he probably doesn't even agree with the culture war / racist stuff but has probably been advised it's the way to go.

The net result though is that it is taking GB into a very dark place.

Is John major the last good conservative leader ? Paddy Ashdown called him “a thoroughly decent man leading an awful party” which I’d take a compliment.

Yes, JM was a good politician and PM. Sadly no one of that stature eg Rory Stewart, is still in the Tory party.

Far from a grey politician, knew of his fling with Edwina Curry. so just looked at his Wiki page. Got his start from a older divorcee Jean Kearns who lived across the road, and also became his lover. He was 20, she was 33 with two children. Good on you boyo.

100%. I get the vibe from him that anyone that isn't as successful as him is simply down to their own fault. Empathy is for losers. Comes across, to me, as one of those 80's Wall Street types. Believe that they are right about everything and when others don't agree its because they simply aren't smart enough to get it.

He is completely in hock to big business. Everything he does is to the benefit of the top guys. But, he is also really bad at being a politician. He is poor at interviews, gets stuck on a loop. Remember his first address after becoming PM. So awkward. And he is not getting any better. He is really poor at PMQ's, only the partisan backing of his party saves him from complete humiliation.

He has achieved next ti nothing as PM. He didn't even need to do much, just not be as bad as Truss or lie as openly as Johnson and yet he appears to be running them both pretty close. His wife's non-dom status, and his initial refusal to even accept it as an issue, was the warning sign.

Something I came across in another thread:

No idea if source is at all reliable but stuff like this if true is of absolutely no surprise..

It is a clear conflict of interest

Post referring to comments made by Lee Anderson, deputy Chairman of the Conservative Party and MP for Ashfield in Nottinghamshire. A thoroughly dislikable individual, he represents a constituency that voted 70% in favour of Brexit and where, in the 2010 General Election, the BNP got 6% of the vote.

The effects this is having on public discourse in GB is horrendous. The amount of out and out racists you see on Twitter - genuine National Front types - repeating word for word what the Tory Party, GB News and the Daily Mail have told them about "illegal migrants" is shocking. Anderson is only saying what they are all thinking.