Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

you can always bus in a couple of hundred people from anywhere, I would be interested to see a profile of these people, if they arent affluent virtue signalers , then they probably dont have kids so no skin in the game or they actually work for NGO's are making money off this.

Indeed.. it is the antiimmigration protests have had people bussed in as you say and are notably smaller . Less locals .

The welcome marches, as they are being called to differentiate, are very much larger and a more diverse age group . Local people.

It has been reported widely who is orchestrating these anti protests and they post their own vitriol on X/Twitter about it.

Near all the main proponents of said ideology, especially those will power, as literally middle class lefties. It's as factual as anything can be, yet once again you deny reality, without explanation.

You are right about "anti immigration" people though, very few are young, not those protesting at least. Young people of a certain age often like to consider themselves enlightened, more wise than their elders, but most grow out of it, I know I did. The saddest cases though, are those who never do, and hold onto their childish beliefs until their deaths.

So they are not allowed join in ? Many would be from the surrounding areas

There were plenty of locals too

But it's ok for rent-a- thug s from God knows where to attend the other protests ,is it ?

I am not going to counter this by publicising those anti immigration thugs but the ones that have been leading at Sandwith St and in Ballybrack are very middleaged men .

'The idea that it is middle class lefties who are in favour of immigration is a bit of a cliché.'

Many people in middle class professions cannot be easily swapped out for foreign replacements.

There was a joke in the Simpsons about this. When Mr. Burns couldn't hire Steven Spielberg to make a film biopic, he got hold of his Mexican non-union equivalent Senor Spielbergo.

Of course these middle-class people do not benefit from any kind of formal protectionism. But if they are in jobs which require high verbal IQ then non-English speakers can't touch them.

A recent Red C poll taken back in May of 2023 found that 75% of the Irish population, that's three out of four, believed that Ireland has taken in too many refugees. So what is this loud consensus up in here that the vast majority agree with what is going on and want even more numbers?

What is it that I've said that you're responding to exactly? I literally said most of them were older.

Many replaced in tech industry over the last 10 years or more by those from abroad . India, Croatia , Serbia , to name a few all competing for those middle class jobs .

To be fair I don't think that people are saying they " want more "... just don't want the message of " go back where you came from " going out to every refugee or foreign national that is in the country .

A lot of the calls at those marches were to the government, to step up and get the finger out providing housing and services to everyone , so that there was no vacuum for an anti immigration hate message to fill .

Had been quoted in here many times. A poll of 1000 people may not be a real reflection of the general public, in fairness.

I have never been asked to partake in a Red C poll, nor has anyone I know.

I know the polls before the last general election were way off. Who knows

I've been rang three times, not about this but I was contacted. The Irish media makes a lot about a Red C poll anytime one is conducted so it must hold some weight within what is going on in any zeitgeist. Holds more weight than what is plastered on here I'd imagine.

Well why do they bother taking them and reporting on them at all if it makes no difference? It obviously does as they know their business on how to judge a current zeitgeist. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't make it defunct. The Irish media doesn't seem to share your view, if it did it would ignore all Red C polls.

You find old people of a certain age believing that they know better, purely because of their age, they tend to look back with rose tinted glasses, maybe become anti everything modern.

Not all of course, I know many older people who are delighted with the changes in Ireland in the last 35 or so years, real relaxed after living life. Seeing many things, a live and let live attitude.

You would wonder what kind of childish beliefs those young people could have though.......

It's becoming a big issue and getting bigger month by month, the majority are fed up and the excuse is the far right to shut people down ,the far right was the excuse 10 years ago,and now it's the blame for everything,we were told we are welcoming Ukrainians,but it seems now the majority arriving lately are young men from everywhere from Pakistan to Nigeria to Syria,

We have no where to put them ,we have a massive housing shortage,we have a health care crisis,we have more and more crisis coming,and all some people can say bring in more it's going to be good for us ,they were saying that 10 + years ago and yet time and time again people are getting proven wrong, while using the bogey man the far right to explain it all away,