Room Temperature Superconductors Created, Replication Confirmed

Overheal · 01-08-2023 6:11pm #1

This is huge, like, Nobel prize, lightbulb, invention of electricity huge. There's been a scramble to replicate since the paper went published last week. Room temperature superconductors have been a holy grail in science the same way cold fusion is. In a normal conductor, electrons smash their way down the wire, bumping around atoms, losing energy in the form of heat, etc. in a superconductor, some electron coupling happens, and TLDR, electrons can whiz through the material with virtually no losses. Copper's resistance is closer to an insulator than a superconductor, by many fold. This is a meta-material that is baked from easily accessible elements, too: lead, phosphate, copper, silicon, and oxygen. Lanarkite (Pb₂SO₅) and copper phosphide (Cu₃P) are baked in an oven for 4 days, and you have a ~~cake~~ superconductor material, dubbed LK-99.

Lossless power transmission and power transformation, virtually instant battery charging, faster computers in smaller packages, magnetic-levitation, and yes, even the superconductivity needed for fusion power generation. This will take the world by storm, and we aren't going to be the same again.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/superconductor-breakthrough-replicated-twice

Video published before replication but digesting the ramifications:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLr95AFBRXI

https://twitter.com/Andercot/status/1686215574177841152?s=20

Make your stonks plays accordingly.

BattleCorp · 01-08-2023 6:31pm

It would be seriously world changing if it worked. I'm a wee bit sceptical. This is one instance though where I'd love to be wrong.

Gatling · 01-08-2023 6:36pm

Supposedly it was a team from Whuhan China,

Taiwan must be watching

igCorcaigh · 01-08-2023 8:32pm

Really hoping this can be replicated more and confirmed... but we've been here before with cold fusion etc. But, *really hoping*!!

TedBundysDriver · 01-08-2023 9:00pm

Would be funny if the inventor was a Republican.

TheRepentent · 01-08-2023 9:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120927518#Comment_120927518

Doubt the IRA or SF were involved but open to correction.

Overheal · 01-08-2023 9:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120927518#Comment_120927518

Korea doesn't even have a Republican party.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_South_Korea

Akrasia · 01-08-2023 9:24pm

Interesting. I've been keeping an eye on this and it seemed that there were shenanigans at play, but if it's been independently replicated than this is suddenly a much more credible discover

silliussoddius · 01-08-2023 9:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058307576/room-temperature-superconductors-created-replication-confirmed

Steorn to the moon. Going to diamond hands it and wrap the lambos.

Gatling · 01-08-2023 9:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120927569#Comment_120927569

No Republicans just the CCP

buried · 01-08-2023 9:39pm

Don't worry, the global, multi-national corporations that call the shots will still design it to break down every two years so you have to buy it again and again.

ancapailldorcha · 01-08-2023 9:42pm

I refuse to be impressed by a piece of technology that can't make a cup of tea.

Overheal · 01-08-2023 9:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120927629#Comment_120927629

The research didn't happen in china. China (Huazhong University of Science and Technology ) and the US (at Lawrence Berkeley National Lab) have replicated the results of the Koreans with some colleagues in Virginia, credit as shown:

The Revised Paper

The Original Paper

Water John · 01-08-2023 9:48pm

Published paper and peer reviewed needed for credibility. We read too nearly every week, breakthroughs on battery tech. Li-ion still the leader after 30 years. Would be massive if it works. Supergrid then possible.

Potential-Monke · 01-08-2023 9:53pm

Good video to explain it, and he kept the jargon as low as possible but still a bit too complicated for me. However, I get the general gist. And if it's legit, if it does what it claims it can do, it's massive. It would be the extra step the EV market needs to really take off/over. It would change medicine, with that videos example of inexpensive MRI machines being a major one. It's the evolution battery technology has been waiting for, which will in turn expand tech evolution in general. Affordable MagLev transport is more realistic. AI will evolve far beyond it's current capabilities, and can bring a literal Jarvis to your phone while simultaneously kicking off Terminators armageddon. It's hyperbole gold if you let it, but at the same time looks very probable.

I hope it's legit, and replications are a good start. Fingers crossed.

Overheal · 01-08-2023 10:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120927669#Comment_120927669

Yes, replications need to be confirmed and reviewed, but replication is usually a prime standard of evidence.

Less than a week and 2 replications by the first labs out of the gate, knowing that to replicate it takes a minimum of 4 days you're talking just long enough to go fetch the ingredients and perform the baking, and confirm the results. I will not be shocked to see more replication claims crop up by the end of the week. At this point my only real question is for follow-up research, does LK-99 make a good material for shaping into wire etc. or will it be brittle enough it only ends up in high end or niche application, can it be wafered onto silicon, etc.

Water John · 01-08-2023 10:12pm

Yes, hope if this discovery is correct, that it can mature quickly as a technology. Perovskite has been known to be better than silicon in solar panels, but it's taking a good while to move into the commercial realm.

astrofool · 01-08-2023 10:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120927730#Comment_120927730

It would be cool if it could be used similar to the copper traces about 20 years back and would blow the current power envelope and heating issues away meaning denser less energy intensive datacenters.

Overheal · 01-08-2023 10:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120927764#Comment_120927764

Both technologies here have the same issue/concern, namely lead, Pb. If the net material is toxic and environmentally hazardous, that will seriously limit its adoption outside of niche application.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120927871#Comment_120927871

At 3 nanometers CPU traces are already getting down to a handful of atoms wide. I'd love to know if this is good news for the 'quantum wire' effect,

CrazyEric · 01-08-2023 10:56pm

Potential-Monke said " It's the evolution battery technology has been waiting for."

It is more than that, because motors will be way more powerful the existing battery tech would suffice. If both battery and motor improve then who knows where it ends.

Overheal · 01-08-2023 11:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120927940#Comment_120927940

Yes, motor coil engineering could see all manner of new improvements. Motor heat is a big issue. So is motor torque density. Power generation from turbines becomes significantly more efficient too.

This could pave the way for like, Gundams and ****.

But for now let's just settle for confirmed breakthrough lol

Pintman Paddy Losty · 02-08-2023 7:03am

I've watched all the hype about this over on X and I'm not convinced that this is as big a deal people are making out. Sceptical of the replications as well. My bet is this whole thing turns out to be a nothingburger.

Vicxas · 02-08-2023 7:17am

This is all way over my head. But if you guys are excited then I’m excited too.

timmyntc · 02-08-2023 9:06am

Its already been debunked at a conference. Proper procedures were not followed.

It is an effect of diamagnetism not superconduction. A handy alloy to know about with that kind of magnetism, im sure it could have some novel uses cost permitting. Consensus so far is it is not a superconductor.

timmyntc · 02-08-2023 9:38am

Many of recent papers do suggest that even though this material (LK99) likely isnt a superconductor, a path has been identified to find one. So this discovery may lead to actual superconductors being found.

One of the papers supporting the replication of LK99 was nothing more than a computational model that said "could b legit". Doesn't really hold up.

Freneys Treasure · 02-08-2023 7:34pm

If this is legit boards.ie will soon be overrun with condensed matter physicists just like it was with epidemiologists during covid.

Overheal · 08-08-2023 5:29pm

Being debunked unfortunately, resistance appears to increase with reduced temperature?

https://www.iflscience.com/hopes-dashed-as-lk-99-confirmed-not-to-be-a-room-temperature-superconductor-70165?fbclid=IwAR1JirDFkmIw1qHbXabpei1gwBRyygqDOCMB2DShIn2XiCXZI1UvrR8aPro

silliussoddius · 08-08-2023 6:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120931825#Comment_120931825

https://imgflip.com/i/7v4txp

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Potential-Monke · 11-08-2023 9:21pm

Twas too good to be true. But if it even pushes that door open just a little bit, hopefully we'll be able to open it fully soon enough.

TedBundysDriver · 11-08-2023 9:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120953549#Comment_120953549

Well what a shock that is.

Room Temperature Superconductors Created, Replication Confirmed

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