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Blood pressure

  • 02-08-2023 12:45PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭


    Blood pressure medication side affects ..amlodipine 10mg .on it nearly two years .the last 6 months can t remember things and being on edge and like anxiety and tired



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭skallywag


    I tried a fair few different types of meds before found one with worked really well, with zero side effects. Your GP should be able to work through different options with you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭westeast


    He insisting there the best .the blood pressure was 180/120 before med .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,611 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    Out of interest what's your BP now? I was 190/110 before going on 2.5mg Nebilet - 150/100 now and likely adding a second drug soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭westeast


    Normal 180/120 that is at gp every time i go in



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,350 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    You might want to get a home BP monitor so you can keep a closer eye on it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭westeast


    I am going to get home bp monitor thank for reminding me .just when you are in the gp they would say white coat fright .but bp is always normal



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Boots have an own brand model.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,346 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    I have a Medicare Lifesense home monitor, cost €55, same as my GP was using the last time I was with him. Excellent buy that I recommend to anyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Normal is 120/80

    180/120 may be a typo on your part but if it is not then then it very much needs action.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,346 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    That's not normal, it's high blood pressure, you may have typed it incorrectly ? It may be due to your visit to Doctor's surgery, but if my GP saw that with me he would make me relax and check it three times. If it didn't come down he would put me on a 24 hour monitor.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,886 ✭✭✭wandererz


    I went to hospital as I wasn't feeling well.

    Detected high blood pressure. Nothing worked for hours. Tablet after tablet.

    Until the last one the hospital had otherwise I would have been admitted.

    Currently on Coverdeine, which is a mix of different drugs.

    Trouble is that I don't know if this is best for me or that it 'just works'.

    Have an Omron monitor at home and now a Bluetooth version which I prefer since it transfers the data to the app on your phone which you can show your doctor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Omron have several models and there are phone apps where you can just type in the values.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,886 ✭✭✭wandererz


    True, and have one of those as a previous model as well. Keep it in the car.

    I just find it easier without the extra manual step. The app directly imports the reading, encourages you to take morning and evening readings and shows where you are on a BP scale.

    Not expensive at all on Amazon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭westeast


    Sorry everyone .i typed it wrong bp is okay the last week just feel sh.t pain in head lightheaded and and upset stomach



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,350 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    What kind of experiences are people having with home BP monitors? My Withings monitor is showing 20-30 points over what my GP's professional, calibrated device is reading. I see other reports on Reddit of people having similar experiences with Withings monitors.
    Are there any recommendations for accurate home monitors?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Streifi


    https://bihs.org.uk/bp-monitors/for-home-use/

    Approved and validated monitors.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,350 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Thanks, much appreciated.

    Just in case anyone else hits this same issue, I found some good tips online about taking a fairly formal sitting position, and making sure the arm being monitored is supported on a table or similar. I'm getting consistent readings in line with what I was getting in the GP office as a result.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Streifi


    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.hypertension.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Home-BP-monitoring-infographic.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjIm72fuLeMAxW4Z0EAHbDxPJEQFnoECCEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0Jn-xdwYBhUWQBTSOP11CN

    This is a lovely graphic explaining how to take it at home.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭triggermortis


    Do you measure both arms? My consultant told me to do both and expect a difference of 5-10 mmHg or less (this can be a sign of blockages or plaque build up)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,350 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    The difference should not be too large. However, I found that putting on the cuff myself one-handed that sometimes I got bigger gaps because I positioned it differently or tightened it more on one side rather than the other. So be a bit careful as @AndrewJRenko mentioned above.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,918 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    I'm Long term Hypertension Stage1 now on 2 different Medication my problem seems to be the Lower Diastolic number high a lot of the time. What I am trying to find out is why there is a discrepancy of figures of normal blood pressure for healthy 60+ (im 59 Male, 60 in June) between the NHS/BHF and the HSE. My doctor gave me a piece of paper with 'Target less than 140 over <90 but I have just been on NHS sit which says a 60+ Male less than 120/80 - just curious why the HSE have set it higher can anyone tell me please?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,350 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    I don't know the specifics, but in general, the guidelines have been coming down, with the medics having a lower tolerance for any variation from the standard 120/80. It could be that the NHS is further down that road than the HSE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,918 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    hard to know what guideline/target to stick to as a guide. My home OMRON arm cuff device has a hypotension icon on it that keeps saying hypotension stage1 in the OMRON app, but if my doctor is going by the HSE guideline of less than 140/90 then I dont know what to base my blood pressure figure on, the OMRON BP machine or the HSE Guideline



  • Subscribers Posts: 16,771 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    OMRON optimal is per ESH (European society of hypertension) guidelines less that 120/80

    Normal 120-129/80-84

    High Normal, 130-139/85-89


    So if it’s actually 140/90 you are in the hypertension grade 1 range. That’s the same for HSE, as you are not less than 140/90.

    On the devices, I trust withings in general but found also their BP reading were a little high. I switched to same OMRON as most doctors office use but with app support. Personally I always use same arm and always throw away first reading as it’s always high for some reason, then I do two more. One set in morning and one on evening. I generally do 5 days of checking in a row every few months.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,918 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    Thanks, so I had to write down with pen for 2 weeks BP for the Docs and average is saying for that 2 weeks 123/88 even though a lot of the times the lower number (diastolic) were readings of between 86 & 95 some days .

    am on bisoprolol & Losartan medication at the moment 92kg 29Bmi - always measure on left arm walk 20mins a day on treadmill.

    even though for that period of 2 weeks it says AVG is 123/88 there are loads of time the OMRON Connect app says "Stage1 Hypotension" - I wonder why that does not reflect in the Avg figure and just says 'High Normal' for the period?


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  • Subscribers Posts: 16,771 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    for some reason my OMRON app looks slighty different but the dashboard give me the average of the last two readings and classifies based on that. So if I do two this morning it takes average of the two and says, ‘optimal’ for example for that day/readings . If I click in for more details I could get a morning ‘optimal’ and an evening ‘normal’ for example on a certain day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭crusd


    Having too small a cuff can inflate readings. I had borrowed a machine off a nurse I know who had done my readings so was confident they were accurate. Bought my own machine and was reading 20 higher. Both machines were the same brand, just mine had bluetooth, but I noticed the cuff on the new one was much smaller. So I swapped the cuffs and suddenly mine was 20 lower and the other one 20 higher

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    Also, any CE marked monitors are good enough. They are classed as medical devices and subject to minimum standards. For home monitors even if they are a little off its no big deal. What you want to know is its under control at a reasonable level - eg if your monitor is saying 135/90 and the docs is 125/80 the fact that yours is a little higher is no big deal. Most important things is that they are repeatable as will make trending more accurate, even if there is a small offset.

    For me I was reading 180/120 when I went to GP with no symptoms. On the 24 hour monitor was in the 165-185/ 100-120. After starting on candestartan 6 weeks ago, over the course of 3 weeks it gradually dropped to now sit stable in the range 117-125/75-85 measured every 3 days or so, apart from one day when it read 135/90 after a few pints the previous night.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,918 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    went to docs today of all the days to forget to take my morning bisop tablet it had to be today! - 3 times the nurse who took my bloods done it , i only got to see the lower number (diastolic) was 101 at one time and on the 3rd time said 100 - when she asked me I told her that I had forgot to take this mornings Bisop - even so she is fitting me with a 24hr BP machine on Monday to monitor it.

    I got the statutory line today that if I cut out processed foods and no salt on dinner (all salt cut out) I would most probably be able to go down to 1 blood pressure tablet a day instead of having to take 2 .


    I am still miffed with so many indications from the Omron app saying Hypotension Stage1 and High Normal that the Average still worked out as 123/88.
    https://filebin.net/ezfiwk5ztxevl1pv



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,918 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    I have been a terrible one for taking my pressure at home on my arm most times without rolling my sleeve up and taking it through either shirt or fleece (and shirt) - the OMRON has got a 'cuff' symbol in it and will normally give an error if the cuff has not been done up right , but I do still wonder how accurate (or not as the case can be) at measuring you blood pressure through the clothes - I wonder would the systolic and diastolic figures be even higher if the cuff was put on bare skin? - I should do a test one day , see if there is any difference.



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