Sex for free rent: Why is this so wrong between consenting adults?

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Its coercion, exploitation and obtaining sexual favours through a position of dominance over a person in some level of desperation.

That "grubby' deals are made in life doesn't make it right and the whole point of criminal law is protect the weaker from the stronger with malign intent.

It should be a specific crime punishable by prison time, with lesser sentences for soliciting the deal. That will kill it instantly, because most of the creatures suggesting it must surely be ugly sweaty incels who couldn't get a woman if they were sold in Dealz.

And if I heard that any friend of mine was trying that on with property they owned, I'd kick their ****ing ass up and down the street for themselves.

Ah, but they're NOT consenting.

Consent under duress is not consent and the landlord can easily make it an "unofficial" condition of accomodation or that he'll rent to someoen else. He could even threaten eviction (not the official reason of eviction though).

Could say the same about a private entity ending a contract or agreement with a client.

How can you hope to provide adequate consent under such a skewed power/control dynamic?

Legalizing sex in lieu of rent just encourages the Jeffrey Epsteins and Harvey Weinsteins and Bill Cosbys of the world to become mass realtors. Chilling.

It's absolutely no surprise at all that the likes of you would think sex for rent would be ok.

Its not duress though if its a condition set out in advance that both parties have time to consider to be fair.

I think its quite clear what the legislation is setting out to do. It's one thing to enter into a casual relationship of a purely physical nature because its desired by both parties, its another for one to use their position to coerce someone into doing something they feel they have no choice but to do in order to avoid being made homeless. Do you really need to have that explained to you?

But that isn't the only decision left to them, ant equally the same argument that made against this could be made against high or indeed any level of rent.

Is it coercion to propose to charge someone €2000 for a room in someones house?

What happens if at some point you no longer want to be part of the arrangement? Do you think your landlord should be able to use the threat of eviction?

It's wrong because the Catholic Church have been left out of their traditional definition of marriage...

So address the question of what happens if the tenant proposes/ instigates sex for reduced rent. Do you criminalise them?

What about when its not?

This PrimeTime issue too has been framed around young women as renters being exploited by lecherous male landlords. Would people think differently if it was a young lad and it was a landlady involved? Possibly bored in her marriage, single or widowed etc.

No, why would anyone think coercion is any less serious because its a woman coercing a man??

i think its wrong but thats like only my opinion...

If the shoe was on the other foot, would the fella be known as a "Rent Boy?" 😆

well RTE managed to dig up 3 lads willing to do it, so maybe not that rare

If it was the OPs daughter that was trading sex for accommodation I'm sure they'd be fine with it. Probably even invite the landlord around for Christmas dinner sure.

My land lord extorts money from me each month that I don't want to pay him or he will make me homelessness. Am I doing this right?

Renting is a competitive market right now, there are 100s of ways people expend themselves to gain an advantage be it slipping the letting agent 100quid, to having good earning and renting in the more expensive and less competitive end of the market, to just making a good impression.

It is wrong for a Sleeze ball to proposition a young one like that, as someone else said I would not be happy with a friend if I found out he did this. and it is wrong for a letting agent or land lord to ask for a backhander to be considered top of the list, but it happens and those with the assets, financial or otherwise can choose to play the game with the advantage they have or not. It is not fair, life is not fair, but then life has always been easier for the wealthy and the good looking.

I think there are far more pressing issues in housing for our elected betters to focus on rather than this but then it's a headline grabber! It has sex, greedy landlords, desperate young women what's not to like? But I somehow don't think it would generate the same attenion if the gender roles were reversed in these stories.