The 2023 All Ireland Senior Football Championship (Sam Maguire Cup)

Well, a couple of days on from the win, watched the game back twice since then. Dublin the better team, to come from three points down twice shows real character. On David Gough, he did a fine job, he got a few decisions wrong but that was for both teams. Still the best ref we have in the country. Some of the bull written here by a few choice posters make the victory all the sweeter. Kerry supporters that both understand and appreciate football have been very gracious in defeat, the clowns from other counties living their lives out through anyone but Dublin really need to grow up and get a life. Anyway, Kerry will be back, good young team. Hopefully we can challenge again next year.

Go through the thread and witness some of the bull that was spouted throughout the game. Mine is an opinion like yourself. If you dont like my opinion block me.

Dublin football managers have never been paid, unlike other counties.

Actually my original point was that David Clifford gets more praise because there are a lack of really top quality inside forwards out there to compare him against, and I stand by that point.

Gooch was regularly called the greatest ever but that opinion would be tempered by being able to point to a McDonnell or Canavan and justifiably say that an argument could be made for them as well.

That doesn't happen today because that level of quality isn't out there, so Clifford stands alone ahead of the pack and some 12 year old thinks that makes him the greatest of all time.

I will leave it there, because you keep coming back with this narrative that packed defences didn't exist 20 years ago, that teams weren't super fit and didn't have tactics. It just isn't the reality at all. Perhaps in the nineties you still had the man for man battles but from Armagh in 2002 on it was the era of sports science taking effect. The era of swarm defences, players flooding up and down the field both defending and attacking en masse. Brian Dooher working back like a dog and Philly Jordan bombing forward past him, has all that been forgotten already? Trying to claim that the likes of McDonnell didn't have to deal with massed defences and the famous puke football is just fundamentally not correct.

I don't understand this question. Be more specific. Would what be said by Kerry fans?

FFS, go away. Not interested in the rest of what you have to say after that.

What you guys pull out here is hilarious, and embarassing tbh.

Enjoy your win.

The most interesting piece is the manager, I suspect he will go now while the going is good.

I hope he does, he got a lot of flak and I can't imagine his job will get any easier going forward. He can walk now with two titles and his head held high, let a new man make a completely fresh start.

Then his leaving would be the catalyst for a few of the players to make the same decision I would imagine.

I have no idea who could be Dublin manager next if they want to stick inside the county.

Kilkenny : 8 All Irelands

Con : 6

Costello : 8

22 AI’s between 3 fellas so far

9 All stars, between 2 of them…. So far…..

scoreless from play but victorious, again, 😋 we’ll take that anytime.

Archer never pushed on from u20. Since change from u21 to u20 we have found harder to bring through young lads especially forwards. Archer is a good freetaker but don't think contributes enough from play to warrant a start.

See the Kerry Chairman is taking the defeat bad. Pity thought they took their beating.

I thought the interview with Jack O'Connor after the game was pretty mealy-mouthed, didn't offer any sort of proper congratulations to the Dubs.

He said there was no consistency with umpires. That lots of off the ball stuff goes on and they say nothing. Then they overruled Gough on Clifford/Fitzsimons entanglement.

Correct call in your view, but he was quite entitled to call for consistency as he quite rightly says, it goes on all the time, all year.

But the county board chairman is a bit of a clown. He's down on the pitch for warm ups and sits with the players in the stand. I don't understand that. Get yourself a comfy premium seat and leave the team to their task without you down there staring at them.

Incredible sour grapes from the chairman. Fair enough point made about O'Connor in the immediate aftermath, but no acknowledgement at any point since from the Kerry hierarchy that they were fairly beaten and no congratulations offered. Tomas O'Se still whining about Clifford not being POTY, I mean Colm Basquel scored more from play than him in the Championship.

The longer they wallow in the unfairness of it all without facing up to the real failures of their team, and it wasn't just last Sunday, Mayo did a number on them as well, then the better for everyone else.

Why should you expect any different?

Jack O'Connor is not a good loser, always quicker to look at why his own team lost, rather than how the opposition won.

I am surprised he did not mention the same line he used back in 2015 (when commenting about the senior game) - saying that the 'rain suited the Dubs'

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Dublin gets way less rain than Kerry.......

In fact Kerry are the wettest county in Ireland

Something does not add up!

He means the traditional style of play Kerry play is more suited to a dry day. Catch and kick.

Teams that run the ball like Dublin more suited to a wet day.

Gilroy is an extremely busy man though, he could only commit a year to the hurlers when he managed them as well.

I have had more of a think about it since. I was thinking maybe a clutch of the 2011 lads as selectors at least - some real leaders there. Cullen and Philly with their fitness and nutrition backgrounds for example.

Outside that generation - Jayo has done a bit of underage management with the younger Dubs. At the very least he could be a good figurehead. Good at the media stuff as well. Has worked with Dublin panels for a number of years at senior level as - mentor, or whatever they call them now.

Not only my view but the umpire and when informed the refs view when he was told what happened. I was sitting right behind it in the Davin. There's hardy been any consistency in games especially when it comes to the tackle, thats just the way it is. Usually swings and roundabouts it normally balances out in the end. But the Kerry chairman moaning about it 2 days after they lost an All Ireland just comes across as sour grapes..

I was right behind it Clifford did start it both just going for the ball,but they were both at it.

This is also fairly typical.

Whenever anyone on the losing side raises an issue ( and inconsistencies are a huge issue) in an interview after the game and ABOUT the game it is sour grapes.

The arrogance of the winner I suppose. If they aren’t on their knees in supplication and properly congratulating us as blanch cried about then they are sore losers.

Funny tbh.