Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

Silly

This doesn't help anything

maybe because older people know how sh1t works and doesnt , young people have no experience of the world, who is arguing about monoculture? a very odd choice of words.

You have no idea of the attitudes of younger people towards immigration. This is yet another unsubstantiated statement, that you’ve pulled out of thin air based on your own leanings.

Do you have any children yourself? Do you coach any sports teams or mentor young people? If not, you are entirely out of touch with the views of younger people.

For those in their 20s, many are sufficiently clued in to join the dots between an acute housing crisis, crumbling public services and unsustainable, migration-driven population growth.

Are you suggesting that we ban Muslim people from coming here?

That's not very inclusive of you.........

"Anecdotal evidence of course is not allowed"

Anecdotal evidence is fairy tales

This is just completely untrue. Young people living with their parents well into their 30’s and will never be able to afford a house, can see the writing on the wall when it comes to letting every Tom, Dick and Harry from the 4 corners of the world in and housing them on top of it.

Young people, like most people, have no problems with individuals of different races and creeds, the problem people have is with our lunatic government and their insane, open door immigration policy.

In both France and Italy a large amount of the youth vote right, so I'm wondering how they explain that one away.

Are all those policemen/women in Sweden that you know still saying all is rosy?

I'm not much older then that group myself actually. But I understand that that is the age group that have significant issues with housing etc.

They aren't protesting outside empty buildings because they don't see why they would! If they have issues with government mismanagement, they are not going to protest outside empty buildings being used to house refugees and asylum seekers.

If people feel strongly enough about an issue, then they go out

As stated, anecdotal evidence isn't really acceptable here, but you brought it up, none of the young people I know have any issue with immigration.

The housing crisis has little or nothing to do with immigration. We had a full blown housing crisis ten years ago when net immigration was at zero and yet Irish families were having to be accommodated in hotels (and reducing net immigration to zero again would have little effect on solving the current housing crisis....Irish people and migrant workers / students are not necessarily even competing for the same accommodation).

If that’s the case, the lads at the protests are equidistant to the youth demographic as your good self. It’s a bit rich, you branding them as ‘middle aged’ and ‘old men’, no?

Whilst we’re on the topic of anecdotal evidence, may I remind you that ‘Strazdas’ made the rather sweeping claim that young people have zero reservations about immigration and their friendship circles are apparently replete with immigrants. I suggest you pick that particular bone with him.

It really is like trying to communicate with a brick wall, but let me try break this down for you in the most simplistic terms. Many people, including those under 35, have reservations about immigration. This has been corroborated in multiple recent polls. However, they’re not going to protest outside buildings as they know that it’s an exercise in futility. Why are you trying to conflate concerns about the volume of immigration with relatively small local protests? Isn’t that somewhat reductive thinking, even for you?

Why would the under 35s blame migrant workers and refugees for their current housing problems and not the Irish government? All the indications are that the younger generation have been totally screwed over by successive governments in their lack in the of access to affordable housing and accommodation of their own : nothing whatsoever to do with immigration.

A poll is a snapshot in time. I doubt many of those polled could tell you how many people applied for international protection last month, or the month before. After one record breaking year the numbers are normalising, with 5 months of a big drop off in numbers arriving. I can see no reason why they won’t return to what they have nearly always been, i.e., well below the EU average. The issue will drop down the news agenda and the public interest will move on to other issues.

There’s nuance here. Everybody is well aware that there are multiple contributory factors to the housing crisis. Government mis-management is of course one of them.

However, to suggest that the extraordinary migration-driven population growth throughout the last decade, has had no impact on housing availability in this country, is utterly naive at best.

People (including those under 35!) understand that resources are finite and when the demand for services and commodities increases, competition increases, and availability goes down. Immigration is undeniably a factor.

In fact, those of us in that age bracket, who are currently going to house viewings, can see with our own eyes how immigration has increased competition for the finite resource that is housing. It doesn’t mean that we’re going to start protesting outside what another poster termed ‘empty buildings’, but we aren’t naive to the impact of demographic pressures.