Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

You continue on putting words in my mouth.

You don't know many police 😉

It is believable, yes.

There was no reason for anything to be said because you are attacking people for no reason.

To save the thread from a pointless forward and back.

You quote the post where I attacked her for a being a guard and I will apologise if I did.

If you can't find that then issue an apology to me.

Seems like a fair compromise.

As we all know there have been protests in east wall and ballybrack and likely will be future protests down the line .

This video was posted up on youtube last night.

Listening to the woman one of her grievances expressed in her own words is " no documentation " now why would she think that ? well newstalk did a story earlier this year that over 5.00 migrants last year had false travel documents or no travel documents at all story is in the link.

https://www.newstalk.com/news/more-than-5000-asylum-seekers-arriving-last-year-had-no-valid-travel-documents-1433756

It is a known established fact that if you travel be it going on holidays or going to Australia that you must provide a valid passport on entry.

Some of us may have travelled to Australia or have friends or relatives who have travelled to Australia.

Here are the requirements

" All arriving and departing passengers must have a valid passport or travel document. "

https://www.abf.gov.au/entering-and-leaving-australia/crossing-the-border/at-the-border

And further requirements

" Passengers arriving in Australia are required under Australian law to identify themselves and provide certain information through the completion of a passenger card. "

" Passenger cards also serve as:

• a declaration in relation to health and character requirements for non-Australian citizens " .

" character requirements " in other words the person is vetted .

The fact that so many travelled here last year without valid travel documents is a grievance a lot of the protesters hold; so what can do done to address such grievances ?

1 - a straight up policy of no passport no entry to be enforced; most peopple would not expect to travel into another country without a valid passports or valid document the same should apply to people who want to travel here.

2 - east wall and ballybrack where the protests are ongoing the local tds in those areas to call public meetings in both areas and have a garda representative present where the garda representative can give assurances to people that any new people arriving into the area have had their passports checked and that they are valid passports to address people,s concerns and I said locals tds where the tds can be asked questions by locals and if anyone has any grievance towards government policy on migration they want to air they can air it.

Some actual dialogue to local communities because there has been little to none since these protests started.

Earlier this year Aodhán Ó Ríordáin was asked if he would speak to the east wall protesters his reply was " why would I ? " .

A local td should be willing to have dialogue with local people even when its an area they might disagree on.

The woman asked questions to the female guard and the female guard didn,t have any real answers; I agree with your sentiment about a growing unease to all of this.

Before any potential unrest starts up now is the time for local tds and a local garda representative or someone from Immigration control to hold public meetings in east wall plus ballybrack and any other areas where there is protests where assurances can be given to people that there is proper document checking in place at the airports and dialogue with local communities.

Of course the female Garda Sergeant didn't have answers to questions about government policies. And asking personal questions like what does she think of something? It's not the time or place to ask those questions, she doesn't need to answer, particularly when she is working in uniform. Want to know her personal opinions? Ask her in real life when she is not working.

More ridiculous protests from people protesting in the wrong areas.

Have issues with government policies? Off ya pop there to government buildings and protest to your heart's content, why stand outside empty buildings or into Garda stations getting in the way of real work and people trying to get in.

Going into stations and recording individual Gardai who know nothing about government policies achieves nothing, apart from maybe annoying the daylights out of members.

Any one who arrives in Australia without documentation who is seeking asylum or IPA, are placed in a secure processing centre until.their identiy is confirmed and their apolication is fully processed. It might takes years, and yes, it sounds cruel. But I agree with it.

If you are running from, for example the Taliban, and are terrified of returning to your own country, i think i,d prefer to be held in a processing centre ((food, shelter, medical needs provided), than be returned.

The video is of a woman who was not even in ballybrack and is clearly not from the area because when the Sergeant asks if she is talking about Eblana ave, the woman hasn't a clue! ' er... yes'

What do you think is the reason she is in Garda station asking a sergeant about government policies?

Who comes here without any investigations? Do you mean asylum seekers?

And the UK don't forget

What about non nationals being attacked and / or murdered by Irish citizens? This works both ways - the state surely has a duty to protect everyone.

I think you're overstating the issue. Ireland cannot go outside EU law when it comes to movement of EU citizens from one EU state to another. If a person has an arrest warrant against then, then that person can be arrested immediately and extradited back to their home EU state (which happens quite often). But if we're talking about former criminals who have served their time and who are not being sought by anyone, then their hands are rather tied.

That lady isn't at a protest, not was she at the one in ballybrack, so no, she isn't one of the middle aged men rising the locals.

She is a bit of a stirrer I guess, maybe along the lines of Gemma Doherty or Dee Wall.

We agree that it is an utterly pointless exercise, just looking for some reaction for her online channel 🙄

I know nothing about the lady, her offline or online activities, and I’ve never heard of Dee Wall. You, on the other hand, seem to be quite well versed with this cast of characters.

For my part, I credit the ‘locals’ with a baseline level of intelligence who are capable of forming their own opinions. You seem to believe that they are malleable idiots, capable of being risen by ‘middle aged, old men’. I trust the ‘locals’ to know what’s best for their own community.