Sex for free rent: Why is this so wrong between consenting adults?

That is part of a much broader conversation.

This thread is about sex being coerced for reduced rent (even if you do not believe it is coercion).

I would support the Bill proposed that such arrangements forming part of a tenancy agreement between a landlord and tenant, whether formal or informal, and irrespective of who proposes such an arrangement, be illegal.

I hope that clears my position up for you.

if you accept the key differences between sex workers and rent-for-sex then how is the mention of sex workers relevant..?

Also, FYI - sex workers aren't necessarily prostitutes - webcamers, strippers and professional dominas are classes as sex workers, but they don't sell sex or have sex with anyone. But again the key difference is they call the shots!!!

I had a tennant once that offered 'other ways to pay'. Thank God I refused, could only imagine the unforseen consequences. I wonder though how many of these arrangements exist...

Going by some of the posters that agree with the whole scenario... It must be 😁

It does concern the general public when a certain % of these deals will be clear exploitation. Protecting vulnerable people is more important than giving landlords more ways of paying for sex

Jeez, will the last one out squirt some bleach around here, please! Ugh!

"We are human and we have rights. Everyone is supposed to respect us, not use our bad situation."

Of course I respect you and I would never user your bad situation. Rent for the dogbox?...It's 2.5k a month with 2 months deposit.

While lots of landlords might have this fantasy (and try to justify it within some libertarian utopia), it’s very rare in a country like Ireland where women have lots of other options. Any young woman just needs to send out a few messages and they’ll be offers of couches at the worst. And most women have the luxury of getting bailed out by their parents. Sex for rent is a real last resort, most women would try Onlyfans before this. Not only will they see it as disgusting but any woman with an IQ above 70 would know not to trap themselves in such an obvious power imbalance.  

Despite the rarity, there will always be a very small proportion of vulnerable women who may choose this option out of desperation. The type of woman who needs to use all her money to fund a drug addiction or a cognitively impaired woman vulnerable to coercion and manipulation. This law is valuable as it:

Protects vulnerable women and reduces the power imbalance with an abusive landlord 

Prevents the housing crisis leading to Ireland becoming a sleazy culture. If sex for rent is socially acceptable it can start to pervade into other areas like employment. Would American or Middle Eastern parents send their daughters to college in Ireland if landlords were propositioning them at every turn. 

It benefits men – If landlords think there’s a possibility their tenant will have sex with them, they’re going to favour female tenants. From my time renting, half the ads were female-only and men got discriminated against at the best of times (despite men being better tenants on average).

It challenges the God delusion of some landlords. Since the start of the housing crisis some landlords have taken on narcissistic delusional thinking. They see renters as some poor serfs and think that these second-class citizens would do anything to access their precious commodity. They don't see the immorality of sex for rent as they don't see renters as in the same class as themselves. The renters could have PhDs and high earning jobs but some landlords feel the house they inherited from their aunt puts them at the top of the social order. Cribbing about an obvious law such as this exposes that sense of entitlement over other people.

I long to see the day when you can conduct a discussion without resorting insults just because someone has a different option to yours.

This is not black and white despite you wanting to see it this way. Of course there are people who will exploit others and the situation they are in, but not every case is about a vulnerable damsel in distress.

Would you be ok with a woman initiating this agreement for free or reduced rent because she has sussed the landlord to be gullible enough to fall for it? I see no issue with it, nor do I care if the other party was to suggest the deal.

What daughter?

Your girlfriend ?

I’d offer to give her the balance of the rent that is too high for her.

You see no problem in people literally being slave meat in order to try to survive in a world run by banks and corporations. Because the banks and corporations are the ones who ultimately control the rent, the greasy money making racket including the disgusting wannabee pimps that try to coerce desperate people into performing sexual encounters for rent.

That is what your loss is. You want to defend this mess. You are literally defending slavery. Because that is what it is. How do you feel defending slavery J? White slavery?