Strange New Worlds S2-E9 "Subspace Rhapsody" Warning may contain spoilers.

Maybe it's not David. Maybe she loses this one and keeps the next pregnancy secret from James.

I don't think it makes much of a change to WoK at all. I went to see it in the cinema a few weeks ago, and to be fair it was a different cut, but as far as I recall Kirk was taken aback by the fact it was David, but not by the fact he had a son. He said to Carol that he stayed away like she asked, which pretty much tells us that he knew he had a kid with her, but Carol didn't want him involved.

Ya maybe. Still no need to have that line at all. And the crew having to sing together to save the day was as shte and cheesy as anything Discovery ever done. For me there isnt much good will left in the bank especially after 3 appearances of that awful Kirk.

In other news I found out this morning that Christina Chong has a proper album out with music videos and all that.

Eh, while I like David Jason, and I know he was a big fan of Discworld so kept doing the shows, I was not a fan of David Jason in the Discworld shows! Might be the reason why Going Postal is the only one I kind of like....

They are not saying that at all. That was never said.

There was something about shifting timelines in Picard season 2.

I know they done TMP and TWoK remastered in the cinema a few months back.

WoK was in the cinema in Ireland last year in Limerick and Dublin for the 40th anniversary. It was in my local cinema abroad recently, so I got to see it after missing out last year!

I’d hsfe preferred this musical number 😀

I’d forgive them on this occasion as the segment was a 10-15 second on screen one and I’d imagine tge regular Klingon chstjves see designed to look bulky and ‘hard’ and if you want dancing Klingons they need something more flexible .

I think I'm done with this silly show.

If people are enjoying then good for them. Some of it is ok. The cast are pretty good, a lot of the stories and ideas are fine, but overall the writing is too silly. The characters sound like teenagers half the time. Some of them, all the time. I would watch more Matalas Trek, otherwise I'll hold on until maybe they finally dump Kurtzman and co.

Did you have to remind us? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E03gKT3AHbc

Play "Night Bird"!

Sadly if they dump Kurtzmann it will probably mean no more Trek for a while because the shows are made by his company Secret Hideout for Paramount so depending on who owns the assets and contracts replacing him could be very costly for struggling Paramount.

One big disappointment in SNW is the characters still sound like Disco characters

Yesterday we had 2 songs about being lonely, a song about breaking up with someone, a song about being broken up with, a song about maybe breaking up and then everyone had to hold hands and sing a big song together.

Outside of Burnham it was pretty fekin Discovery.

They really don't know what to do with Ortegas. Her song was literally her whole character.

" I am the pilot, I fly the ship, I sit in the pilot seat" 🤣 (might not be the exact words)

Mr Worf, are you familiar with Gilbert & Sullivan?

God I think people are too negative on here. SNW is far, far removed from discovery. I’ve watched a fair bit of Star Trek over the years and had the chance to watch much of it first time it was shown. SNW feels to me very much like proper trek. I don’t find myself making excuses for it and absolutely don’t feel Like I’m only watching it because it’s on. I’d say that about Discovery and Picard. In fact Discovery I literally just stopped watching. It was that bad.

I wasn’t crazy about the musical and only liked it more than than the Lower Decks episode. All the ST shows have had their stupid non-core-trek episodes. Off the top of my head I can think of that TNG Q Robin Hood episode, and the TOS episode with the space hippies who nearly took over the ship. TNG had several more and season 3 of TOS is pretty dreadful relative to the first two.

With ten episode seasons you really feel the effect of a poor or filler episode though. With the old 22 episode seasons you could let a few filler or downright bad episodes slide because there was still enough room for great episodes. This season of SNW we’ve taken a big hit because we’re down 3 episodes lost to whims. The La’an/Kirk time travel episode was a bottle ep and then they awful lower decks crossover and now the musical. For the crossover and musical I felt the characters were out of whack. It’s all just more self indulgence on behalf of the showrunners than anything else. Ultimately we’re left with 7 episodes of a 10 episode season to give us what we actually want. I’d probably tolerate these more if they were treated as specials and we weren’t sacrificing valuable season episodes for it.

I’ll still watch SNW though. I’ve sat through enough bad trek to know when it’s good.

This makes "Fair Haven" look like The Godfather

and it's perhaps noteworthy that Ortegas has been the character to get the least spotlight and substance all season.