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Sexism you have personally experienced or have heard of? *READ POST 1*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭iptba


    The dangerous pleasure of hating men

    by Mary Wakefield

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-dangerous-pleasure-of-hating-men

    Maid is well-written and well-acted, but the secret of its success lies somewhere quite different. The distinctive thing about it is that every male character is an absolute horror. I mean: every single one.

    ---

    I think, come 2022, we’re going to need another version of the Bechdel test, but this time in defence of men. If any film or series contains not one single male character who isn’t either useless or evil, it fails. For want of a better idea we could call it the Maid test.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭iptba



    This came out earlier in the year so apologies if this has been posted before

    Swedish study suggests hiring discrimination is primarily a problem for men in female-dominated occupations

    https://www.psypost.org/2021/05/swedish-study-suggests-hiring-discrimination-is-primarily-a-problem-for-men-in-female-dominated-occupations-60699

    There were 3,200 fictitious job applications sent to 15 different occupations, including four male-dominated professions — vehicle mechanic, delivery/truck driver, IT developer, and warehouse worker — and six female-dominated professions — customer service, cleaner, childcare, accounting clerk, preschool teacher, and enrolled nurse. The remaining occupations included B2B sales, telemarketing, chef, waitstaff, and store clerk.


    Granberg and his colleagues found that women had higher positive employer response rates than men on average, an effect that was primarily driven by female-dominated occupations. There was no evidence of discrimination against women in male-dominated professions or in mixed-gender professions, but the researchers did find evidence of discrimination against men in female-dominated professions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭bcklschaps


    Story from the Gaurdian. It's a pity the film production was scrapped (clearly the producers had a feminist/victim narrative in mind that would now have been completely debunked by the accused man's exoneration) because it could have ended up being a much more interesting film entirely.


    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/nov/30/netflix-scraps-film-version-of-lucky-alice-sebold-book



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    "For the first time ever, women now earn slightly more than men at An Post."

    ""This is a momentous day today," said David McRedmond, CEO of An Post."

    lol



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭iptba




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    That seems to be as crooked as hell. Boys are really up against systemic misandry in the education system.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭iptba


    UK police failings led to further serial killer murders

    Updated / Friday, 10 Dec 2021 18:31

    https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2021/1210/1266063-port-inquest/

    Police mistakes "probably" contributed to the deaths of Stephen Port's victims, a British inquest jury has found.

    Officers in Barking, east London, missed repeated opportunities to catch sexual predator Port after he plied first victim Anthony Walgate with a fatal dose of date-rape drug GHB and dumped his body.

    —-


    She said: "If Anthony, Gabriel, Daniel and Jack had been girls found in such close proximity there would have been an outcry. There would have been a lot more investigation - and there just wasn't."

    Who knows.

    ETA: Oops, meant to post this to another thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,326 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    Wow.....just wow 😲 totally unbelievable. That Feminist rag the IT should hang their heads 😌


    Just imagine if the genders were reversed??





    what they should in fact be highlighting is how come there wasn't gender parity amoung the candidates, it appears to have been 9 to 3.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭iptba



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭iptba


    Heard this on the BBC news earlier.

    Some asylum seekers who cross the Channel to the UK will be given a one-way ticket to Rwanda under new government plans.

    The pilot scheme will focus on single men arriving on boats or lorries.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-61097114



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,331 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    My ten year old took her teacher to task when she made the assumption the only food I could provide when she’s with me was a chipper ….so proud 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,331 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Yeah there’s no way of predicting the outcome if they’re strangers



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    There is no need to touch a child to push them on a swing.

    It happened once when I was in a playground that a child fell on the ladder of a slide and whatever way her clothes were she got snagged on the ladder and ended up hanging upside down and unable to free herself screaming and in distress. There were no parents around to help her. I have to admit I thought twice but did lift her down.

    I have often seen strangers push my children on a swing or help them down from something though so maybe it is just reading these threads that makes me a bit paranoid



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭iptba


    Legal history made as more women than men granted top lawyer titles


    For the first time in Irish legal history more female lawyers than male have been added to the ranks of senior counsel.


    Twenty women and 14 men made the latest list of lawyers to be granted “patents of precedence”.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/legal-history-made-as-more-women-than-men-granted-top-lawyer-titles-41784538.html

    ---

    Twenty-four male barristers and 17 female barristers applied, while 13 male solicitors and seven female solicitors applied.


    ---

    So 37.8% of men who applied were added to the ranks of senior counsel.

    and 

    74.1% of women who applied were added to the ranks of senior counsel.


    This doesn't prove discrimination but the success rate figures are quite unbalanced.

    Background information like this makes me wonder whether female candidates were at an advantage/male candidates were at a disadvantage:

     But this year has seen a surge in female appointments following calls from Justice Minister Helen McEntee, the Irish Women Lawyers’ Association (IWLA) and the Law Society for more women to apply.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,326 ✭✭✭littlevillage




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    I think the article is very critical of Jerry Hall actually although hard to see the point of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,326 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    I haven't even read the article (it's behind paywall) but was only commenting on the blatant sexism of the article title. There isn't a hope in hell that such a title would get past editors if the genders were reversed.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    It’s a tough one all right. What could possibly have drawn Hall, a woman with a clear penchant for rich old conservatives (even ones posing as subversive rock’n’roll rebels), to the immensely powerful right-wing shaper of opinion who, moreover, has his very own sheep farm and is reportedly worth more than $17 billion?

    Article seems to be tongue in cheek but again hard to see a clear point in it. I accept you point though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭iptba


    Minister for Justice Helen McEntee visits new Limerick Prison expansion and announces publication of the Irish Prison Service Annual Report for 2021


    The Minister also noted the highly innovative accommodation which is built specifically for the needs of women.

    The Minister said:

    "It is important that our prisons cater for the specific needs of women. This new facility has been carefully designed to meet these needs and will help the women prisoners there to address the factors that led to their offending and provide them with opportunities for a better life post imprisonment."

    https://www.gov.ie/ga/preasraitis/a31cb-minister-for-justice-helen-mcentee-visits-new-limerick-prison-expansion-and-announces-publication-of-the-irish-prison-service-annual-report-for-2021/

    Looks like they are continuing a policy of better prison conditions for female prisoners


    A social justice group has brought up the female prisoners issue in a press release:

    Adams concluded: “Female imprisonment is the area of our justice system which should demonstrate the most restraint, but instead there has been a clear policy decision to imprison more women, despite the availability of other options. The design being tailored to women’s needs does not change the fact that a prison is still a prison.”

    https://www.jesuit.ie/news/jcfj-alarmed-at-ministers-comments/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭iptba



    Taoiseach says Government ‘under pressure’ on refugee accommodation after 33 Ukrainians turned away from Citywest

    No women or children turned away, but men asked to provide contact details for when places become available

    [..]

    A spokeswoman for the Department said all individuals who were turned away from the Citywest transit hub were male, and no women or children were turned away. The men who were not able to be accommodated were asked to provide contact details so they can be contacted when accommodation does become available.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2022/10/22/33-ukrainian-refugees-told-no-accommodation-available-on-friday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭iptba


    re: last comment

    There are 10 more:

    Ten Ukrainian refugees who arrived in Ireland yesterday have been told there is no accommodation for them, bringing the total number to 44 this week.

    Yesterday it had been revealed that 33 refugees had been told there was no accommodation for them, but this afternoon the Department of Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (DCEDIY) confirmed that “a further ten people, all single males, were informed that no accommodation was available and asked to provide contact details for when it does become available.”


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/more-ukrainian-refugees-told-no-accommodation-for-them-in-ireland-at-moment-42088810.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭iptba


    RE: last two comments


    Speaking on RTÉ radio’s Morning Ireland, Mr O’Gorman said he “could not rule out” that some people would end up sleeping on the street.

    Women and children will be prioritised for accommodation in Citywest, and his department will work with NGOs about supporting other arrivals.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2022/10/21/refugees-sleeping-on-the-streets-cannot-be-ruled-out-as-citywest-reaches-capacity-minister

    Note that just because some women are mothers, doesn't of course mean all female refugees are here with children


    He's the Minister for Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth of Ireland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭iptba


    RE: last post:


    Women and children will be prioritised for accommodation in Citywest, and his department will work with NGOs about supporting other arrivals.


    Given the above statement, it may not be a coincidence that the migrants in tents are men:

    Migrant men sharing tents at Clare refugee centre

    'Sense of hopelessness' setting in as men seeking international protection remain in tents since September

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-41025629.html

    Almost 100 men seeking refuge in Ireland continue to sleep in 'inhumane' tents provided by the State in Co. Clare tonight as no alternative accommodation could be found despite the sub zero temperatures.


    ‘Hopeless’ hundred in Direct Provision in Co Clare spend third night in tents in sub-zero conditions

    Authorities are scrambling to cope with sub-zero temperatures, while flights cancelled in Dublin and drivers warned

    https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2022/12/10/asylum-seekers-freeze-in-tents-as-cold-snap-set-to-continue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭mcsean2163


    Yep, have to agree a lot of the talk of 'unvetted males' seems pretty dehumanizing to me.


    There's the separate issue of child homelessness and it may be feeding into the 'unvetted males' narrative but it's really strange and seems to be a recent phenomenon. Are 'unvetted males' not worthy of help? Some of these men have gone through horrific torture and escaped here to be classed as 'unvetted males', hopefully it's a phenomenon that won't last.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭iptba


    Now it’s okay for men to pee sitting down, here are a few other changes they could make


    Brianna Parkins: It also turns out that seeking help from trained professionals might not make a medical condition worse


    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-style/people/2023/02/21/now-its-okay-for-men-to-pee-sitting-down-here-are-a-few-other-changes-they-could-make


    Premise of article:

    "Seeing the success of men adopting practices formerly considered “women’s business”, here are some other ways men could benefit by becoming more like women."


    It ends:

    ======

    And the one that counts


    But that one’s not going to change the world. The one that would really count, just off the top of my head, would be getting men to inflict less violence, both sexual and physical, on women.


    In Ireland, Women’s Aid has registered 256 violent deaths of women since 1996. Of the 200 cases that have been resolved, 87 per cent of the victims were killed by a man they knew. In Australia, where I grew up, five women have died from violence allegedly committed by a man in the first month of the year, according to Counting Dead Women Australia. In 2022, 56 women there suffered the same fate.


    But bringing those numbers down would be more of a benefit for us women and, say, for society as a whole. Is that a selfish thing to ask for?

    ======


    I really can't see the Irish Times having a male journalist write a similar article in reverse i.e. about women.



  • Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭Mobius2021


    Not sure if this is slightly OT for this thread but I'm curious...

    Would people consider "bitching session" to be an offensive or sexist term? Was on a work call recently and people (from Ireland and other countries) mentioned they want a forum to discuss pain points and issues, I quipped something along the lines of "that sounds like another name for a bitching session" and the reaction was very surprising. Those in a particular location, who admittedly English is not their first language, reacted in quite a shocked fashion, saying that's a very dangerous thing to say etc. Think I just ended up nervously blabbing and shut-up fairly quick.

    So I assuming they consider it maybe sexist, which I honestly never did until today and other colleagues and I, both male and female, would use that phrase without issue.

    Thoughts?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,394 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    The strong reaction was more likely due to the fact that they’re all using garbage language (aka the language of corporate culture) and you popped a colloquialism in there. Easy to misinterpret really, albeit unintentionally. I can see how it was a bit awkward 😁

    Made a similar gaffe myself years ago when I said in a meeting that I’d a pain in my balls with all this paperwork. After the meeting I was pulled up on it by another manager who, we never had the best relationship in the first place, but the difference from your example was that she clearly understood the intent. She feigned offence at my… as she put it “you referred to a part of your anatomy”. I figured best course of action was not to indulge her nonsense, and let it go.



  • Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭Mobius2021


    Yeah, thinking about it I can see how it went sideways. Guess we often throw it around the office here in Ireland and very much in a non-gender way i.e. both men and women use it and are part of bitching sessions.

    Lesson learned. Funny thing is the one criticism my management chain would have of me is that I'm possibly too nice and careful with people, got recent feedback to not be afraid to be more blunt. :-)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    "Would people consider "bitching session" to be an offensive or sexist term"

    No, why.


    "TO bitch (intransitive):

    • To criticize spitefully, often for the sake of complaining rather than in order to have the problem corrected.
      • All you ever do is bitch about the food I cook for you!

    (Wiktionary)

    According to Etymonline the sense may derive from the Middle English "bicched" meaning cursed, bad!

    Bitch (v.):,

    • "to complain," attested at least from 1930, perhaps from the sense in bitchy, perhaps influenced by the verb meaning "to bungle, spoil," which is recorded from 1823. But bitched in this sense seems to echo Middle English bicched "cursed, bad," a general term of opprobrium (as in Chaucer's bicched bones "unlucky dice") , which despite the hesitation of OED, seems to be a derivative of bitch (n.)."

    Snowflakes will get offended, mainly because they love it.

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,609 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Snowflakes....always so self assured in their own ignorance...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭iptba


    RE:

    RE: last two comments


    Speaking on RTÉ radio’s Morning Ireland, Mr O’Gorman said he “could not rule out” that some people would end up sleeping on the street.

    Women and children will be prioritised for accommodation in Citywest, and his department will work with NGOs about supporting other arrivals.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2022/10/21/refugees-sleeping-on-the-streets-cannot-be-ruled-out-as-citywest-reaches-capacity-minister

    Note that just because some women are mothers, doesn't of course mean all female refugees are here with children


    He's the Minister for Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth of Ireland

    =========

    Today:

    The Citywest facility has been at capacity since January this year, with a lack of beds leaving some men sleeping on chairs for up to 30 days.

    Article is titled:

    Differences between State’s treatment of Ukrainians and other asylum seekers ‘unacceptable’, Ombudsman says

    Government warned preferential treatment of Ukrainian families over other asylum seekers ‘unacceptable’

    https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2023/04/11/ombudsman-criticises-discrimination-against-child-asylum-seekers-in-citywest-hub

    I haven't seen any agencies/NGOs/charities criticise the explicit discrimination against male asylum seekers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭iptba


    Male Defence Forces personnel who made sex abuse complaints were shunned in ‘disgusting’ campaign of intimidation


    She said there was a stark contrast between the treatment of women who made sex abuse complaints in the military and men who complained of historical abuse.

    However, there has been no indication to date that the abuse of teenage males in the military in the 1970s and 1980s will be investigated.

    The woman – who has been married to her husband for 34 years – said that while everyone had praised the courage of the Women of Honour for speaking out about abuse, the Men of Honour had instead been subjected to a clandestine campaign of whispers, ostracism and subtle intimidation.

    ===

    “My husband went to the removal of an army colleague who had died to pay his respects and several former comrades and superiors literally turned their backs to him. They ignored him and shunned him,” she said.

    ===

    A second army veteran, who claimed he was abused by a different NCO during basic training at a southern base, claimed he discovered he was not being invited to a number of events for retired personnel.

    He attended one event without an invitation and a number of former colleagues and NCOs either ignored him or left the gathering a short time afterwards.

    ===

    The man was left so traumatised by the abuse he suffered that he tried to take his life more than 30 years ago, and recovered thanks only to years of counselling and with the support of his wife and family.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭iptba


    Another example of only male applicants for international protection not being accommodated:


    Over 200 male applicants for international protection remained without accommodation last week, committee hears

    As of May 24, all adult women and couples seeking accommodation since January were accommodated

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/over-200-male-applicants-for-international-protection-remained-without-accommodation-last-week-committee-hears/a601773033.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,326 ✭✭✭littlevillage




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭cms88


    What are the odds of her getting very little criticism for her part in all of this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭iptba


    RAF diversity targets discriminated against white men

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-66060490

    Initiatives to increase the numbers of women and people from ethnic minorities in the RAF led to unlawful positive discrimination, an inquiry has found.

    The head of the RAF has admitted some men were discriminated against.

    The internal inquiry was sparked by the resignation of a female RAF Group Captain who told her superiors the policy penalised white men.

    The inquiry found she had faced significant and unreasonable pressure to meet diversity targets.

    [..]

    The RAF has also admitted its target for 40% of the force to be female and 20% from an ethnic minority background by 2030 is unrealistic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭iptba


    A gym, a salon and ensuite rooms – we take a look around the new Limerick Women’s Prison

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/a-gym-a-salon-and-ensuite-rooms-we-take-a-look-around-the-new-limerick-womens-prison/a532804390.html



    People will have different opinions about prisons and the accommodation and facilities they provide.

    But the question is whether male and female prisoners who commit the same crimes face the same facilities to serve their sentence in and that doesn't look like to be the case in Ireland.


    I know that the killer "Scissor Sister" Charlotte Mulhall is in the women's prison in Limerick* and I think some other killers are there are also.


    This article portrays female prisoners as generally being victims more than Irish articles I've seen about male prisoners e.g.

    Andrew McCarthy, the governor of Limerick Women’s Prison:

    “Most of these women have never experienced proper security or safety in their lives and many of them have been abuse victims on the outside. The vast majority of female committals are victims, and we have to work around their traumas,” he said.


    *If they are not there, they [female killers] are in the Dochas Centre, which is also a less austere environment then what male killers would face.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭cms88


    While i know it's TV you only have to look at recent shows like Smother etc where females killing males is justified.



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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,925 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    My skincare bits arrived from Boots and they threw in a free sample of women's perfume...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭cms88


    Are the male murders in there being painted as ''victims''?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭cms88


    Large numbers of women either fail to show up for an interview or fail teats required to get in yet it's everyone else fault. I'm guesses entry for females will be made easier again aftr this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,326 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    The Woke media thought they were onto a winning story of discrimination against the Wimmin's only to find when they dug a little deeper that the wimmin (that bothered to show up for interview) weren't upto scratch.


    Headline would more accurately read


    "Only one woman met standard for Army recruitment"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭iptba


    The Irish Defence Forces have a target that 35% of the forces are female. It will be interesting to see how they work towards reaching such a target e.g. will standards being lowered; will women be advantaged; etc. It seems a high percentage for both the type of work and the working conditions (though I don’t know much about the details of the latter for the Irish Defence Forces).



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  • Registered Users Posts: 893 ✭✭✭purifol0


    I wonder do people here understand the difference between in group and out group preference.


    It's literally the reason women are "feminist" and men are "white knights".


    Women have an in group preference, this means they see other women as on the same team. Whereas men have out group preference, they will naturally advantage women over men.


    This is a natural instinct and one that has to be manually overriden. Doing this consciously is relatively easy, but in daily life the hardwired biological nature can be seen in action very clearly.


    For example legislation that is gender neutral eg. Crimes & sentencing may say that either gender gets 1 year inside, but female prisons look like hotel rooms whereas men get cells. Not a peep from anyone that this is unfair, unless the situation was reversed of course.


    In group preference is also why women cannot stand to hear criticism of other women from men. They themselves get angry and defensive, even though they aren't being criticized at all. They see themselves as other women. They also get embarrassed on behalf of other women when they are rightly criticized by men. Think Helen McEntee levels of ****-up. Women absolutely think she's an eejit, but they dislike men critiquing her harshely even if they agree with the sentiment.

    It's a herd mentality protection instinct. And they can't easily switch it off, most of them don't even realize it exists.

    I think because women think this way, they think we also must think this way about other men. This really confuses men, especially when we cop flak for something we didn't do, but some guy somewhere did and now all men are responsible and should feel collective guilt.


    Basically men don't see other men as on the same team and what's worse is, in mixed gender social situations other men are seen as competition. Another reason for the need for the return of male only social spaces.


    Apologies for the ramble, but in group preferences are well studied but not well known by the general public



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭cms88


    The issues with more females in the Defence Forces is they all want to go in straight to the top ranks as offices etc and do so without acutally putting in the work. The entry requirements for females are already lower than it is for males yet no one seems to have an issue with that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 893 ✭✭✭purifol0


    Meritocracy is now misogyny. The girls have been told all their lives now they have an uphill struggle, and deserve more because of all the awful awful treatment men gave them (in the past of course).

    Whether it's the public sector or a public company in the private sector it's women to the front.


    The public sector don't have to worry about employee performance because politicians won't fire any if them and their budget comes from taxes.

    The private sector doesn't care about promoting women into positions of high pay if they are getting DEI and ESG funding and their stock goes up the more woke they are.


    As per my last post, women's in group preference basically blinds them from seeing things fairly and makes them inherently sexist.


    As an example a girl I went out with recently told me she's got a new mentorship program going for new female hires. This was about ten seconds after we she told me that men are privileged because they always get the best jobs, over a dinner that I was paying for naturally.


    When I told her that this program is literally the definition of sexism, and that there was no program in place for new male hires the mental gymnastics she performed were telling. I could see in her face that she had just realized the truth but was never going to accept it or internalize it instead just babbled on, red faced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭cms88


    The way female TDs have been treated recently have been a good example of this. The whole RTE thing is one good example. Catherine Martin the minster has got away scott free ywt if it was a male minster they'd be slated.

    It's apparently quite well know within FG that Helen McEntee is given preferential treatment and will be put into jobs regardless if she's the right person for the job or not. The fact she know has kids means she'll get away with even more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭cms88


    It's like all those ''Women in xyz industry'' how no one ever calls that out i don't know. Yet if a suggestion was made about something ti encourage more men into teaching for example there would be uproar.



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