Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

I am quite disappointed so far.

Imo we don't have the strength in depth to make any significant challenge where it is required. It's very hard to win with a skeleton staff. Especially considering the improvements other teams are making.

The club are letting down the players again.

Mbappe to Liverpool, all day everyday fiction the internet click bait engineers spin.

It's incredible the way PSG is treating Mbappe, a player that has done nothing wrong, he wants to play, and yet was kicked out of preseason for wanting to honour his contract with PSG, and see it out, he wasn't looking to leave this summer, and now it looks like he'll sit our a season of football, and still walk for free, PSG is totally in the wrong, is there no Professional Footballers Association in France to sort it out, PSG are the ones breaching his contract

With our attack, its very possible.

Community Shield day today, last year was prob as good as our season got. It was a good game, fairly spicy. We played very well and beat City 3:1. Haaland missed a sitter, which of course the media and rival fans seized on, and Darwin scored in injury time.

All kinda hard to believe now looking back. I was full of optimism after narrowly missing out on the quad a few months before. But it all started going to sh!te from league game 1, blessed to get a draw at Fulham.

Anyway, hopefully it's spicy again today and that we start well next weekend.

That's a very dramatic way of putting things. They went and bought two brilliant quality additions to midfield early on - and then got hit by two players pushing to leave that weren't expected. Maybe before we complain about holes left we actually wait and see if they bring in one of the two DMs they're currently closely linked with.

Also, FSG always feels like a very easy 'outsider' place to apportion blame. They own the club, but the club spends its own money - would be much more looking at the actual club staff, including Jurgen, for how that money is spent.

True enough - but I think they DID do what Arsenal did to an extent... identified the ideal replacements, and got them done early. By all accounts they were about to move onto CB, before we then lost Fab and Hendo unexpectedly and then had to completely scrap all the transfer plans and prioritize DM.

I'd also be placing the blame much more heavily on Klopp and the transfer lads - even last season, we went into the season woefully short in midfield... but we spent a lot of money on forwards between Darwin in the summer and Gakpo a few months later. I really like both guys - but maybe we should've spent 35m on a striker, and the rest on midfielders? I doubt it's FSG who pick the players after all, or pick the specific areas to spend the transfer funds on, it's the specialists who are employed to make those decisions. So I think we can look at the money spent last summer and say that the people actually spending the available money made poor choices for where to spend it.

If Hendo and Fab are replaced then fair enough.

I was quietly confident before they left.

Otherwise we've a Thiago, Mac, Sobo midfield 3 and no backup imo bar Jones. I think that's being generous too as I never considered Jones a viable option for a while now. Elliott and Bajetic either aren't midfielders or are too young to expect the required impact.

We really, really need two, even before we need a CB.

I think nearly everyone agrees we need 2 midfielders and a centre half. Whether that happens is another thing. The Lavia deal is really dragging on. Rumours on twitter(not reliable of course), is that we are renewing our interest in Gravenberch. If true it would be a bit underwhelming but I suppose at least it would be another pair of legs in midfield.

Can see us getting two midfielders but running out of time for a centrehalf and the excuse coming out then that the right type of centrehalf was not available

If we were to get Lavia then he might the 2nd more "experienced" midfielder. Amrabat off to Utd.

If we get Andre he probably won't come in until January

I know the wages involved would be insane, but if Bayern do end up getting the Kane deal over the line, I’d love to see a bid go in for Kimmich just to see if they might want to recoup a big chunk of that fee instantly.

It’s pure fantasy stuff really, but given his injury resistance and availability over the last few seasons along with being an undisputed world class number 6, one Kimmich would easily be worth two lesser midfield signings.

Suddenly I fear that might happen and it’ll be our only midfield signing by the close of this window.

You have to admit, it’d be textbook Liverpool/FSG.

Why would Kimmich want to take a step down like that? Especially if they signed Kane.

They're missing a 0 at the end.

It annoys me im posting this - but Roy Keane was right when he said every year United won a title they went out and bought 2 world class players to keep the team on their toes - we didnt

FSG have been brilliant owners.

Theyve taken a club that was a financial and organisational shítshow and turned it into one of the best teams in the world, rebuilding the infrastructure and making sure the club can run under its own steam, winning every trophy they could while having to compete against a club that has been charged with massive overspending by the PL.

The main issue people seem to have is they don’t spend enough money. we did spend 60m+ on a forward last year and we’ve brought in 2 midfielders and as far as I’m aware they’re still trying to get deals done.

They won’t spend a few million more than they think a player is worth, which can be frustrating, but I’d prefer that then for them to load the club with debt.

So weighing up everything good they’ve done against everything bad, I don’t think anyone could have done any better.

Anyone who wants them out, who would you like to see us owned by?

Does that exist? I don’t think it does… essentially you want a benevolent multi-billionaire scouser/fan to appear.

More likely is either a hedge fund like Chelsea got, who will also only be interested in financial return (and may do mad things like leveraging future spending in an attempt to boost share values in the shorter term, as Clearlake seem to have taken a gamble on), or else it’s a despotic nation state.

For me it’s very much a case of ‘better the devil you know’ on this front anyway.

I think the best scenario we can hope for is Lavia getting done this week and Andre on a pre buy for December...

We are paper thin though, it's not looking good...

All that shows me is that heavy investment doesn’t guarantee anything.

FSG have made Liverpool arguably the most successful non state owned club in the league over the last 10 years. Surely that’s considered a success?

I do wish they’d loosen the purse strings a little, especially now when we don’t have a DM.

But they don’t run the club badly, and I don’t think there’s many owners out there that would do better.

How exactly are they brilliant at lining their own pockets? They haven't taken a penny out of the club yet. There's no obscene dividends or one-off payments. Until the club is sold, there's no return on their investment. They might make a fortune, they might make nothing. The future is unwritten.

FSG not spending money but just ignore they built a new training ground and upgraded two stands along the way.