I know of only one so far, and it is not the above. I've read the letter and it's decent advice which gives people options and advice so as not to fall foul of the law.

In respect to the current situation it's apt, however bitter of a pill to swallow the situation is it gives good advice.

@tonysopprano@tonysopprano "when boards directs no offering of LEGAL ADVICE"

Correct and right. So show me where anyone on here has offered legal advice and I'll remove it.

That is not legal advice. That is my opinion of a suggestion contained within the letter, not posted on this forum (save the paraphrased one liner a few posts back) and how it is legally sound. Meaning it is established by or founded upon law.

Namely (from the link above)

Anything else?

@tonysopprano "A conversion to straight-pull, requires the removal of the gas system, which in turn requires a re-proof of the rifle, AND Ireland, not having a Proof-House, means exporting and re-importing the firearm"

Ok, I give up. I cannot find the legislation you are citing here. Where this is a requirement, legal or otherwise, so can you post a link to it?

Yes.

It's called an opinion and is based on reading the entire letter. Which means I know the club is not calling for people to surrender their firearms as the previous post seems to suggest but outlining some suggestions for affected people..

As for your continued laughing suggestion, if you want to continue to laugh at people's misfortunes then haveatit, however I think it's crass.

That is what I'm concerned about.

If you never had a license for one you could own one but it'd remain in the dealers. Yours to sell as you please.

It seems that by handing it over to AGS you lose control of the firearm to the extent they now decide what happens with it. So say you find someone in the EU willing to buy it you now have to ask AGS to send the gun out for you as you cannot get possession of it to do so yourself. Where as if it's in an RFD the dealer can do it for you. You're in control, mostly.

Plus with the 1972 temp custody order and the amount of, now, expensive firearms "lost" I'd be very concerned about handing over my €1,500 to €3,000 firearm.

Restricted dealers will remain restricted dealers so them holding the guns in storage is not something I see a problem it.

As said above my only thinking of why AGS don't want them stored in RFDs is they can guarantee after the 4 months (after November 1st) the guns will be destroyed or sold. IOW,gone. Not remaining stored for year(s) in an RFD.

The firearms are not "illegal", just the ability to license them is now revoked for those after September 2015.

They remain licensed to other pre this date so if the firearms were "illegal" then they couldn't have them either.

As such they remain restricted firearms and an RFD with restricted status can store them, just not sell them to someone within the state.

@freddieot - I get your point now.

Unlike the 2008 pistol ban this legislation has the caveat that unless the license was in force on or before 1st August 2023 then there is no going into the dealer years later to get your gun back even if it's granted before Sept 2015.

They're learning.

That being said it doesn't change the status of the guns otherwise all guns would be subject to the same change of status. They're still restricted firearms.